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I hate when people do this. Who cares if it was done before. I see it has been done 3 times. Like the half of the ongoing threads.... Geeez. Why can't people just answer or make meaty reply.

I'll go with Batman here. His feats and showings in the last couple of years are pretty good.


But not as good as Shang's.

Chi beats Bruce in hand to hand.

Gadgets shift things into batman's favor.


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But not as good as Shang's.

Chi beats Bruce in hand to hand.

Gadgets shift things into batman's favor.


Yeah... actually they are just as good. erm


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Shang Chi is better then Batman. He is stronger, he is faster and he is more skilled. This fight for all purposes is Batman vs. Lady Shiva... if she was strong enough to uproot trees (okay... it was half a tree) and beat people with it like it was a baseball bat. Gagdets are the only thing that insures that Batman doesn't speed the rest of his life drinking O.J. through a straw in a hospital bed.


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Originally posted by batdude123
Yeah... actually they are just as good. erm


So says the poster with the Batman inspired name, avatar, and signature, wink.


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Shang Chi is better then Batman. He is stronger, he is faster and he is more skilled. This fight for all purposes is Batman vs. Lady Shiva... if she was strong enough to uproot trees (okay... it was half a tree) and beat people with it like it was a baseball bat. Gagdets are the only thing that insures that Batman doesn't speed the rest of his life drinking O.J. through a straw in a hospital bed.


Are we talking about the same Lady Shiva who has a losing record against Batman? confused

I've seen Batman kick entire trees and 5-inch thick steel doors down before.

That doesn't really impress me.

Batman can ALSO amp himself up with chi just like Shang can.


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So says the poster with the Batman inspired name, avatar, and signature, wink.


Your "you're a fanboy for Batman" arguments don't impress.


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Are we talking about the same Lady Shiva who has a losing record against Batman? confused

I've seen Batman kick entire trees and 5-inch thick steel doors down before.

That doesn't really impress me.

Batman can ALSO amp himself up with chi just like Shang can.


Batman has never beat Shiva in fair, one on one combat. End of story.

There is a difference between kicking a tree in half and grabbing one by the trunk, uprooting it and using it as weapon. Shang Chi is just better then Batman.

Comparing Batman's chi amping abilities to Shang Chi is like comparing Shang's to Iron Fists'


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Your "you're a fanboy for Batman" arguments don't impress.


I never said that you were a fanboy, I was just pointing out that your opinion that Batman's feats are just as good as Shang Chi's is a biased one, just as Capt it up's opinion's on Wolverine feats would be, or Grimm's feats on Thing would be.

Though, Grimm IS a bit of a fanboy, so maybe that's taking it a little too far....


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Batman has never beat Shiva in fair, one on one combat. End of story.

There is a difference between kicking a tree in half and grabbing one by the trunk, uprooting it and using it as weapon. Shang Chi is just better then Batman.

Comparing Batman's chi amping abilities to Shang Chi is like comparing Shang's to Iron Fists'


He's gotten the better of her on two occassions that I recall of (besides the Superman/Batman occassion).

Right, and there's a difference in the fact that Batman with just one kick, kicked down a 50 foot tall, 3 foot wide oak tree, vs. half a tree. The feets are relatively = in retrospect. Not to mention the... you know... 5-inch thick steel door thing.

Do I really have to mention all of the meta humans Batman has taken down with just one kick/punch/pressure point strike?

Not to mention, Batman's suit gives him the advantage in a purely physical fight.

All things being =, Batman takes this with gadgets 8-9/10.


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I never said that you were a fanboy, I was just pointing out that your opinion that Batman's feats are just as good as Shang Chi's is a biased one, just as Capt it up's opinion's on Wolverine feats would be, or Grimm's feats on Thing would be.

Though, Grimm IS a bit of a fanboy, so maybe that's taking it a little too far....


I admit when Batman is outclassed.


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I admit when Batman is outclassed.


And he isn't OUTCLASSED - It's not like he's fighting Spiderman.

However, even if not entirely outclassed, he is still inferior to Shang is a straight-up fight.

Gadgets give Batman the win.


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No.

I understand Shang Chi is a phenomenal h2h combatant, but if Wolverine can b*tch him in a couple of moves, then Batman can fair pretty well himself.

differences is logan has superhuman stats while batman does not. batman will be fighting a person close to on par if not par in fighting skills. He will also be facing a person who has superhuman stats becuase of chi.

so lets see
strength shangchi
agility shang chi
reflexes shang chi
senses shang chi
skills around equals
expereince around equals

shang-chi just has the better stats which will be batmans down fall not to mention logans foughten many chi wielding fighter which I don't recall batman fighting to many of thoses thats why logan was able to do what he did

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differences is logan has superhuman stats while batman does not. batman will be fighting a person close to on par if not par in fighting skills. He will also be facing a person who has superhuman stats becuase of chi.

so lets see
strength shangchi
agility shang chi
reflexes shang chi
senses shang chi
skills around equals
expereince around equals

shang-chi just has the better stats which will be batmans down fall not to mention logans foughten many chi wielding fighter which I don't recall batman fighting to many of thoses thats why logan was able to do what he did

I can't wait until Batdude comes in and explains Batman's training and his use of Chi. eek! You're in for it bro. laughing


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I can't wait until Batdude comes in and explains Batman's training and his use of Chi. eek! You're in for it bro. laughing

I know his training and chi using ive seen the post before how ever he not nearly as powerful with it as shang-chi nor does he use it as much. Hell logan can use his chi energy as well but he not nearly as good with it as say shang-chi or IF

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differences is logan has superhuman stats while batman does not. batman will be fighting a person close to on par if not par in fighting skills. He will also be facing a person who has superhuman stats becuase of chi.

so lets see
strength shangchi
agility shang chi
reflexes shang chi
senses shang chi
skills around equals
expereince around equals

shang-chi just has the better stats which will be batmans down fall not to mention logans foughten many chi wielding fighter which I don't recall batman fighting to many of thoses thats why logan was able to do what he did


Logan is enhanced. All that aside, he still shouldn't have schooled Chi in what... two moves? That's called either:

A) Bad writing.

or

B) Shang just isn't that good.

And since I know it's not the latter, I'll go with "A."

Batman has fought the best masters in the world who all use chi. He can also amp himself up using chi just like Shang can. Simply because he doesn't use it often, doesn't mean he can't.

Oh, and since when can Chi amp himself up on the fly? You'd think that with a flury of pressure point strikes coming at Shang, he wouldn't have enough time to amp himself up using chi.

Batman also has a trump card in this as well: Death blows. He has the ability to kill you in one shot (leopard blow and tiger fist).

Not to mention the countless amounts of meta humans he's taken down in one strike. Shit, he's disabled opponents before with one simple touch

All the stats you listed are debateable, considering all the mystic training Batman has had before.

I'll just say it's a tie in the h2h department, but Batman's gadgets win this one for him 8-9/10.


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Logan is enhanced. All that aside, he still shouldn't have schooled Chi in what... two moves? That's called either:

A) Bad writing.

or

B) Shang just isn't that good.

And since I know it's not the latter, I'll go with "A."

Batman has fought the best masters in the world who all use chi. He can also amp himself up using chi just like Shang can. Simply because he doesn't use it often, doesn't mean he can't.

Oh, and since when can Chi amp himself up on the fly? You'd think that with a flury of pressure point strikes coming at Shang, he wouldn't have enough time to amp himself up using chi.

Batman also has a trump card in this as well: Death blows. He has the ability to kill you in one shot (leopard blow and tiger fist).

Not to mention the countless amounts of meta humans he's taken down in one strike. Shit, he's disabled opponents before with one simple touch

All the stats you listed are debateable, considering all the mystic training Batman has had before.

I'll just say it's a tie in the h2h department, but Batman's gadgets win this one for him 8-9/10.
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I always thought of Batman as being superior in strength while Shang Chi is a better striker, but what happens if Batman turned the fight into a grappling match?


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Batman wins due to gadgets.


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