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Name for me one TP feat that MM has equal to being able to control 90% of the world at once.


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1) No way is MM a stronger teep then Xavier or the Shadow King. The Shadow King during Psi-war controlled 90% of the minds on earth at the same time, MM has never done anything to match that.



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Yes I do. Now please awnser the question.


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Yes I do. Now please awnser the question.


Okay then....

Better question: On what level are your reading comprehension skills?

Manhunter > Xavier.


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My reading skills are fine.

Name one feat MM has done thats equal to controling almost the entire earth.


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small one: linked all heroes in the world telepathically
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Still that doesn't compare to controlling almost all the minds on earth.

And linking minds is not the same as being strong enough to induce influance over them.


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Okay then....

Better question: On what level are your reading comprehension skills?

Manhunter > Xavier.



Do you just have a natural hard on for DC characters or what?
Dude when have you ever seen MM do that?
The guy links JLA together but nothing on 90% of earth's populace
dude give it a rest
at least come up with stats and facts not bs insults

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He forced his way into the spectres mind.Hes made the joker sane several times.he was controlling thousands of criminals mentally and making them feel remorse he could read sbps mind and he telepathically reached out for millions of miles navigating through mageddons telepathic waves something that was affecting everyone on earth and he still managed to reach superman


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Shadow King controlled billions of minds and turn them into raging psychotics.


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Shadow King doesn't directly control people from the astral plane, he casts a corrupting influence. He wasn't shown in Psi-War to control "billions of minds" nor "90% of the minds on earth". He said he thought he could reach them all, but then in doing so he stretched himself so thin that Psylocke managed to imprison him with her powers.

This being a moot point since with or without using telepathy, MM wins.


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He did reach them all, they show it in the issues.

Psylocke had to use her magic abilites to contain him.

And yes he does control people as he has many many times in the comics.


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He did reach them all, they show it in the issues.

Psylocke had to use her magic abilites to contain him.

And yes he does control people as he has many many times in the comics.
In that issue he wasn't shown directly controlling people by my recollection. Nor does it state anywhere 90% of the Earth's population nor billions of people.

At the moment where Shadow King thinks he has reached them all, Psylocke traps him using her telepathy, which is why after the event she can no longer use her telepathy.


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She had to tap into her magic abilities to pull off that trick. And they show him controlling people making them attack each other and create general carnage all over the city.


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She had to tap into her magic abilities to pull off that trick. And they show him controlling people making them attack each other and create general carnage all over the city.
Yes, New York. Nowhere else that I recall, and you're confusing direct telepathic control with simply causing people to act out of character.

The Crimson Dawn abilities allowed her to survive the Shadow King's attacks and remain invisible to him for a time. It was her telepathy that was used to imprison the Shadow King.

And again moot point. With or without telepathy, Iron Man loses. Psi-blockers can be bypassed by suitably skilled telepaths regardless. The Martian holds all the cards.


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And your splitting hairs, however you say it, he was exerting control over their behavior. And they also showed several other locations around the world including the united nations.

And no, she had to use her powers along with her telepathy to do it.

And I never said Ironman could win.


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And your splitting hairs, however you say it, he was exerting control over their behavior. And they also showed several other locations around the world including the united nations.
The Guggenheim and the UN headquarters are both in New York City.
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And no, she had to use her powers along with her telepathy to do it.
I'll go back and check, but I remember it being her sum total of her telepathy that keeps him in check.


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Do you just have a natural hard on for DC characters or what?
Dude when have you ever seen MM do that?
The guy links JLA together but nothing on 90% of earth's populace
dude give it a rest
at least come up with stats and facts not bs insults


Are you ignorant? Ask around the boards, I'm NO DC fanboy.

Reading this actually shocked me, as I've been accused of being a Marvel fanboy so many times in the past...


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Im going to scan the issue and post it.


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Are you ignorant? Ask around the boards, I'm NO DC fanboy.

Reading this actually shocked me, as I've been accused of being a Marvel fanboy so many times in the past...


then stop saying ignorant things based on supersitions. I mean we know that nobody can beat MM OR SUPERMAN. MAN what is with you people?

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