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Smurph
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Hood is definitley the better H2H combatant, but doesn't have the expierience or agility that Wing has... that being said, he'll be able to keep up well enough to take the win.

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Hood is definitley the better H2H combatant,


Based on what exactly? Since even in the recent outsiders tussle hood was outmaneavered and had to resort to pulling out a gun.

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Batman even said it himself and was scared that he could easily get killed.


I think that was due to wrecklessness. When Jason was Robin he owned Nightwing in a quick confrontation.


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No he didn't. Maybe you should read the whole comic instead of just 1 or 2 scans in the Red Hood respect thread.


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No he didn't. Maybe you should read the whole comic instead of just 1 or 2 scans in the Red Hood respect thread.


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Red Hood imo is a better fighter. Thats it though. Dick still is more agile, has way more experience and isn't dwarfed enough by Jason in skills for it to be a curbstop. In an all out match Dick's combination of his skills (agility, quick mind, etc) will score him the win.


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And olympian, you can't seriously be suggesting Jason has better agility than Nightwing? Nightwing is the one DC describe as the best acrobat in the world, not Red Hood. In Hush all he did was mimick Nightwing's style, it was never said he did it as well or better than Nightwing himself.


He doesnt have better agility no. What i said was that Jason nowadays its more versatible on working on a wider range of abilities than Grayson is. He has good agility and great prep ability and great ability to improvise and...blah blah.

Grayson is in the top 3 of DC`s acrobats but his range of abilities in later years hasent been as wider. Thats why i see Hood bring "more to the table".

I dont agree with Grayson being the # 1 DC acrobat, tho. Always had the feeling that it was Deadman.

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No he didn't. Maybe you should read the whole comic instead of just 1 or 2 scans in the Red Hood respect thread.


I dont chalk that showing higher than it should either, because its clear that Grayson was caugh off guard with the whole situation. However the last two drops on Grayson in the streeth alley were impressive for a rookie Jason, one has to admit.

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No he didn't. Maybe you should read the whole comic instead of just 1 or 2 scans in the Red Hood respect thread.


Well I was just going by memory. Jason didnt own Nightwing but it was still an impressive showing at one point he was handcuffed.

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Yes it is, but have you ever commented on scans without actually reading the comic? Yes, you have.


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I dont agree with Grayson being the # 1 DC acrobat, tho. Always had the feeling that it was Deadman.

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"The world's greatest acrobat". Thats very recent as well, was from 52.


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By the Wally I made a post you might have missed it.


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Well I was just going by memory. Jason didnt own Nightwing but it was still an impressive showing at one point he was handcuffed.
Yeah it was a good showing for Jason, I just don't like people saying he owned Nightwing there or that Jason was better than Nightwing at that point. But Jason managing to escape and get away (temporarily) was a decent showing for him, Nightwing did have to save his life a couple of times right after that and it was clear Nightwing was way more skilled then.


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Well,No-one with a hint of sanity would say Jason was better,I just say it like that because it pisses of Entity.

Still,the one fight were Nightwing did get the advantage,Jason said he didn't want to fight,so Nightwings wins aren't written in stone either.His agility isn't that much better,since Batman thought Jason was Clayface mimicking Nightwing.Jason has jus been performing at a higher level then NW since his return IMO.

But that Nightwing recuperating thing is wrong....in his latest annual he was well on the road to recovery before he went with Batman on the cruise...

Plus Nightwing is not what Jason wants to be no expression Jason paid out on Nightwing in WW3 and called him a pussy.Jason has his eyes set on being better then Batman,and personally he's shown himself to be closer to that then Dick ever has IMO.


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Sorry did miss it

Yeah it was a good showing for Jason, I just don't like people saying he owned Nightwing there or that Jason was better than Nightwing at that point. But Jason managing to escape and get away (temporarily) was a decent showing for him, Nightwing did have to save his life a couple of times right after that and it was clear Nightwing was way more skilled then.


Yeah my bad, I wasnt really thinking when I posted that response.


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But that Nightwing recuperating thing is wrong....in his latest annual he was well on the road to recovery before he went with Batman on the cruise...

Its not wrong, his injured shoulder is mentioned or shown in issues #125-129 which are set after the Jason arc, two people he fights even notice it and comment on it, I think the last two Nightwing issues are when he has gotten over it. It might be a bit of retconning on Wolfman's part, but he definately established Nightwing was still suffering from the Luthor blast.


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Nightwing still wins this.....


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Nightwing for the win 9/10

DC can retconn jason and all that,,jason can have his badass self,i will take the 40 + years(15 years in comics?) of dick grayson growing up in comics over a retconned dead short lived robin

Bad idea DC-Jason should have stayed dead


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Well,No-one with a hint of sanity would say Jason was better,I just say it like that because it pisses of Entity.

Still,the one fight were Nightwing did get the advantage,Jason said he didn't want to fight,so Nightwings wins aren't written in stone either.His agility isn't that much better,since Batman thought Jason was Clayface mimicking Nightwing.Jason has jus been performing at a higher level then NW since his return IMO.

But that Nightwing recuperating thing is wrong....in his latest annual he was well on the road to recovery before he went with Batman on the cruise...

Plus Nightwing is not what Jason wants to be no expression Jason paid out on Nightwing in WW3 and called him a pussy.Jason has his eyes set on being better then Batman,and personally he's shown himself to be closer to that then Dick ever has IMO.
There's a difference between mimicking Nw moves and Nw doing the moves.Agility isn't even close seeing as Dick was the best acrobat when he was 8.

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Nightwing ftw

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