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Adam Warlock vs Mar-Vell (h2h)
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Originally posted by Skeets
Why not?
He even has way more powers now than back then.

precisely, he got powered down.
but warlock is strong much stronger than marvell, i doubt Marv can throw down with Drax.

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precisly, he got powered down.
but warlock is strong much stronger thar marvell, i boubt Marv can throw down with Drax.
You mean current Drax? Cause Mar-Vell defeated old Drax..


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You mean current Drax? Cause Mar-Vell defeated old Drax..

im meant dumb drax, i actually ever seen Mar-vell fight Drax hand to hand.

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I'm actually working on putting together a Mar-Vell respect thread as we speak, but I don't know how long it will be before I finish(if someone else wants to do it, I'll just add what I have to their stuff).

Anyway on this fight, Mar-Vell takes the majority(but it would be a good fight). Who's more skilled could actually go either way, and as bigbran pointed out Mar-Vell could probably amp to match Warlock's strength. What I see giving Mar-Vell the victory, is his cosmic awareness. Unlike guys like Surfer, Mar-Vell used his cosmic awareness often in the middle of battle to help him read his opponent. He was always sensing any vulnerabilities or openings his opponents had, and when the best time to strike or defend was.


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precisly, he got powered down.
but warlock is strong much stronger thar marvell, i boubt Marv can throw down with Drax.
He has already... no expression

Also, another good skill/strength feat.

Cosmic kung-fu.
After Iron Man got his ass handed to him, by like three of these guys...
Mar-Vell uses his cosmic awareness to beat them all...
All of these guys are as strong as Iron Man...
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Crushes some heads... Rick Jones gets switched before he can take them down...
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He is stronger than 10 tons, or at least, his skill is good enough to make it look like he is stronger than about 5 Iron Man level beings... by far...


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im meant dumb drax, i actually ever seen Mar-vell fight Drax hand to hand.
Yeah, they have faught like 3 times, back in the 70's Captain Mar-Vell run...


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If i remember correctly, Mar-Vell amped his strength to battle Namor....


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Yeah, they have faught like 3 times, back in the 70's Captain Mar-Vell run...
He also beat Thing (well, with the help of electricity...) in h2h, before his meta-morphosis.


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Did Pip, or Gamora know Warlock when he was a nobody?
A Him?

Oh he's strong no doubt, but I really don't think he is as strong as Him.
He is smarter, more skillful, more powers, but I really doubt he is as strong as he was back then.


I'd agree.

The point was just that he isn't a pushover strength-wise. He's just not known for it anymore, so it gets overlooked.


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donīt know the characters that much, but iīm inclined to give this to warlock
just because he is wise doensīt mean he is not strong enough


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Re: Adam Warlock vs Mar-Vell (h2h)

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A h2h battle that takes place in a jungle.

Two very experienced h2h combatants.

Mar-Vell is allowed to amp his strength up too.

Who wins?


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I doubt it,the handbooks have Mar-vell at class 10 with amping.
Warlock's easily class 50 and up with amping.
Strength gives Warlock a real big edge considering the fact that he's just as good as Mar-vell is H2H.
OK, found something... interesting...
Do you think that Spider-Man could do this to Ronan and Sentry?
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Down goes Sentry... Mar-Vell is bringing it to Ronan...
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That's one savage class 10 beating Ronan got...
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OK, found something... interesting...
Do you think that Spider-Man could do this to Ronan and Sentry?
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Down goes Sentry... Mar-Vell is bringing it to Ronan...
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That's one savage class 10 beating Ronan got...
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Originally, Captain Mar-Vell had no superhuman powers, although he was somewhat stronger than a human due to his advanced Kree physiology. As a species, the Kree have developed greater strength in order to combat the heavier gravity of their home worlds.

The Kree nega-bands converted Mar-Vell's psionic energy into strength (he could now lift 10 tons), a high degree of imperviousness to harm, the ability to project energy blasts, and the power to fly. They also allowed Mar-Vell to exist unprotected in outer space without having to breathe.

Dr. Benjamin Savannah's radiation treatment altered Mar-Vell genetic structure so that he could absorb solar energy and convert it to various uses, including strength. He then relied on the solar power rather than the bands for flight, and would leave a glowing trail behind him while flying.

The exact nature and scope of the "cosmic awareness" granted to Mar-Vell by Eon have never been clearly defined. Apparently it enabled him to sense the presence of beings and objects in the universe that were somehow of importance to him for whatever reason. It may be somewhat comparable to Spider-Man's spider-sense and to Mantis' awareness of psychic "vibrations," but its scope was far greater than either. In later volumes of Captain Marvel involving Genis-Vell, the power of cosmic awareness has been described as an almost immeasureable force that allows the user to know all that has occurred, all that will occur, and all that might occur anywhere in the universe. Without proper experience and a level of control, this sense of all-knowing can drive an individual insane (as it did with Genis-vell


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Soon afterwards, Mar-Vell became embroiled in battling Thanos. Infatuated with pleasing the force of Death (which had taken the form of a beautiful woman), Thanos planned to destroy all life in the universe as a sign of his devotion. Mar-Vell was teleported to the presence of the extraterrestrial being called Eon which had been created thousands of years before to watch over the evolution of superhuman beings on Earth. Eon induced Mar-Vell to reject the Kree's love of warfare entirely, and to reach inner peace. Eon then granted Mar-Vell a psionic ability called "cosmic awareness", and designated him as "Protector of the Universe". Thanks to these changes in himself, Captain Mar-Vell became the primary force in bringing about Thanos's defeat.


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warlock...

dude brawled with warrior madness thor while using some of his powers to hold down sif and balder all at the same time...

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warlock...

dude brawled with warrior madness thor while using some of his powers to hold down sif and balder all at the same time...
So... this is actually Him then?


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Originally posted by bigbran
OK, found something... interesting...
Do you think that Spider-Man could do this to Ronan and Sentry?
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Down goes Sentry... Mar-Vell is bringing it to Ronan...
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That's one savage class 10 beating Ronan got...
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i don't know -- you think mar-vell could put a beat down on firelord . . .?

shifty

this is a pretty close fight. mar-vell's skill is prolly higher than warlock's, but i'd say adam was stronger overall. when cm matched drax, drax was only cl40, don't forget -- and yeah, i saw the 'planet-busting fight' with thanos. doesn't change my mind i'm afraid . . .

ronan was also much less back then also.

amping to say cl50 is likely about as high as he gets (that would be high enough, given his skill, to beat ben).

i agree -- cosmic awareness would be the difference in this fight. that, and mar-vell's warrior attitude that made him one of the greatest ever.

in straight h2h, i'd say 7/10 mar-vell.


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what does cosmic awareness actually do aside from sensing disturbances in the universe?

how does it actually help you in hand to hand?

warlock has gone from brawling against bigger and stronger guys than him to taking over a whole spaceship using just stealth and martial arts...

he may even be superior to gamora...i think... embarrasment

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