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according to wiki, ken made a promise to marry eliza after beating ryu decisively before the sf2 tourny. so it seems more fitting that ryu atleast lost to him. the only cancon confirmation is that akuma showed up and killed bison.


In other words, Ryu threw the match for his friend's sake. Whether or not Ken knows about it later on remains to be seen.


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Actually, he lost the match because he was distracted, the fight with Akuma, and Akuma's words stuffed him up badly.


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In other words, Ryu threw the match for his friend's sake. Whether or not Ken knows about it later on remains to be seen.

capcom always gives reasons if someone loses to someone for things OTHER THAN skill. for example:
-they mentioned that sagat lost to Adon because he was too upset with his loss to Ryu to focus
-ryu lost to ken in SFA2 because he wsa distracted

if Ryu threw the fight for his friend's sake they would have said so. Ryu lost fair and square.....learn to live with it. if i can live with the fact that Orochi Iori lost to a f@g like Ash, what's your problem? wink

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Actually, he lost the match because he was distracted, the fight with Akuma, and Akuma's words stuffed him up badly.

he's talking about SF2.

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why do ppl like ryu so much anyways. his playing style is boring. Ken's always been better. he had the better looking throw back in sf2 original version. He's faster, flashier and more combo friendly now.

not to mention he's more aggressive and can show off more in a match and still kick ass.
It's also wise to assume that ken has more natural talent. in most of the anime flashback, it shows ken usually dominating ryu. ryu just manages to surpass him because all he does is train and look for fighters now, and he still always has trouble with ken. I know anime isn't canon, but they are usually based on some truths.

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Ryu isn't afraid of losing. He said it himself that you can learn from your losses instead of gaining an empty victoty. He knows that you can't win them all. That and his drive to better himself is what makes him so appealing.


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like i always say:
"you know you play too much street fighter when you insist that Ryu has a personality"
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why do ppl like ryu so much anyways

QFT. he is definitely the most overrated videogame character in the world. ever. and i thought Cloud Strife was bad. Ryu isnt bad at all but i hate the way people put him on this pedestal where apparently NO ONE can beat him...aside from godtiers..and that too only SF godtiers. puh-lease. for a guy who has 3-4 moves and has a personality more lame than something out of a Uwe Bole movie, people sure do seem to create a wankfest out of him.
it sucks.
between Ken and him, Ken is everything that you said. he is almost as good as him WITH getting a life, getting laid and being all the more cooler in the process. not to mention that he kicked his pro-fanboy keister on two occassions.
training, having a life and being damn good>>>>>>>always training and barely a bit better.

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QFT. he is definitely the most overrated videogame character in the world. ever. and i thought Cloud Strife was bad. Ryu isnt bad at all but i hate the way people put him on this pedestal where apparently NO ONE can beat him...aside from godtiers..and that too only SF godtiers. puh-lease. for a guy who has 3-4 moves and has a personality more lame than something out of a Uwe Bole movie, people sure do seem to create a wankfest out of him.
it sucks.


Thats crap dude, we'vealready said that he draws evenwithguys like Terry and Kyo... Remy is probably the only one why does the overhype.

However,it'seasy to get overzealous about shitlike that, considering that Ryu now has the samelevelof fighting power that Akuma had back in Alpha, which is enough to sink islands (Perhaps Akuma's biggest feat ever beside non-canon stuff).

And who honestly really cares about an overdeveloped personality in a fighting game? Fine, Ryu's a fighting focused character, but he does have some story tohim (Bison hunting him, the feud with Akuma, the rivalry with Ken, teaching Sakura, a possible interest in Chun Li....)

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between Ken and him, Ken is everything that you said. he is almost as good as him WITH getting a life, getting laid and being all the more cooler in the process. not to mention that he kicked his pro-fanboy keister on two occassions.
training, having a life and being damn good>>>>>>>always training and barely a bit better.


Your overplaying ken while ignoring circumstances........ asI saidbefore,who cares... and if Ken where naturally better, then why is it that Ken has never felt the Dark Hadou, the one thing that ALL Ansatsuken fighters must face and either succumb to or overcome.

Anyways, I wonder if Capcom really is following the Alpha Generations storyline in that respect, making Akuma Ryu's father,hence why he has a natural inclination for the Dark Hadou.... confused


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we wouldn't know, amigo. Capcom has already sold of SF to Capcom of US and all that has been done is the predicatable same-shit-different-packaging crap that capcom has been pulling off on us devoted fans since day one.
I certianly hope akuma isn't ryu's dad.

as for what you say about Ken, dark hadou isn't part of ansatsuken. Gouken didn't have to go through it since he was a kind person. Ken didn't have to go through it becuase his whole life isn't about fighitng nor is winning such a big deal for him...nor has he been in a battle that forced him to the dark side (being a guy who has fought more school girls than anyone else laughing )
Ryu went through it because of his greuling fight with F@gat and how he became desperate to win. Gouki wnet through it because he his whole life became consumed with thought of being the strongest.
both ryu and akuma went through a dark phase since they live a life that is all about combat and fighitng. gouken was happy being what he was and so is ken...hence the reason why they aren't carrying the darkhadou garbage with them....and actually got laid toobig grin

i am not ignoring circumstances either. Ken beat him in SFA2 and it was because ryu wasn't focused. i'm pretty sure i said that back here somewhere. in SF2 people are insisting that ryu took a dive....however capcom always brings things like these to our attention if someone loses to a person for reasons other than being inferior as a fighter. eg, sagat losing to dan, sagat losing to adon, ryu losing to sakura etc.

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And who honestly really cares about an overdeveloped personality in a fighting game? Fine, Ryu's a fighting focused character, but he does have some story tohim (Bison hunting him, the feud with Akuma, the rivalry with Ken, teaching Sakura, a possible interest in Chun Li....)

that's not development. the only "development" ryu got was in SFA3 when he finally overcame his dark phase. aside from that:
-bison is dead and he didn't even know he was following him...till he showed up and kicked his @$$.
-akuma and he don't really have a fued since they only fought once
-ken and ryu's rivarly is something that i would agree with though. hwoever it does nothing storyline wise
-he never taught sakura...if anything he encouraged her to chase after older guys by giving her his picture laughing out loud
-as for chunli, ryu is a training eunuch and so is she. this relationship goes to the dogs before it even starts....and i don't mean doggy style evil face

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we wouldn't know, amigo. Capcom has already sold of SF to Capcom of US and all that has been done is the predicatable same-shit-different-packaging crap that capcom has been pulling off on us devoted fans since day one.
I certianly hope akuma isn't ryu's dad.


When I first saw that, all I was thinking for the next 5minutes was "No F@#%ing way."

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as for what you say about Ken, dark hadou isn't part of ansatsuken. Gouken didn't have to go through it since he was a kind person. Ken didn't have to go through it becuase his whole life isn't about fighitng nor is winning such a big deal for him...nor has he been in a battle that forced him to the dark side (being a guy who has fought more school girls than anyone else laughing )


Actually, Gouken did, he and Gouki was trained in the complete and deadly style from Goutetsu. Gouken overcame it just the way Ryu did. Thats why he tried to hide it from Ryu, Ken, Retsu and Dan. but for some reason, Ryu had a natural tapping into the Dark Hadou that surfaced during his first serious battle (Against Sagat in the 1st WWT.)

Winning isn't a big deal for Ryu at all, the only time this hasn't applied is when there is more at stake than a simple fight (Like the times against Bison and Akuma), the one exeption to this was against Sagat, because he wanted his master to be proud of him (Ryu thought Gouken was still alive at the time).

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Ryu went through it because of his greuling fight with F@gat and how he became desperate to win. Gouki wnet through it because he his whole life became consumed with thought of being the strongest.
both ryu and akuma went through a dark phase since they live a life that is all about combat and fighitng. gouken was happy being what he was and so is ken...hence the reason why they aren't carrying the darkhadou garbage with them....and actually got laid toobig grin


Already addressed.

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i am not ignoring circumstances either. Ken beat him in SFA2 and it was because ryu wasn't focused. i'm pretty sure i said that back here somewhere. in SF2 people are insisting that ryu took a dive....however capcom always brings things like these to our attention if someone loses to a person for reasons other than being inferior as a fighter. eg, sagat losing to dan, sagat losing to adon, ryu losing to sakura etc.


I'm not sure why though, Ryu still won the 2nd world warrior tournament because he was the one confronted by Akuma after Aku killed Bison by dropping into the tournament scene...

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that's not development. the only "development" ryu got was in SFA3 when he finally overcame his dark phase. aside from that:
-bison is dead and he didn't even know he was following him...till he showed up and kicked his @$$.


Ryu came back and obliterated him with a Shoryuken... it is slight development around him though...

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-akuma and he don't really have a fued since they only fought once


Twice. and it's a really serious feud because Akuma killed Gouken.

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-ken and ryu's rivarly is something that i would agree with though. hwoever it does nothing storyline wise


It keeps them both fighting.

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-he never taught sakura...if anything he encouraged her to chase after older guys by giving her his picture laughing out loud


Thats just evilon your part.

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-as for chunli, ryu is a training eunuch and so is she. this relationship goes to the dogs before it even starts....and i don't mean doggy style evil face


Well, maybe, just maybe they hook it upevery so often... (Take a look at Snafu's storiesstick out tongue)

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I want to throw it... the damn spacebar works only 30% of the time...


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Thats crap dude, we'vealready said that he draws evenwithguys like Terry and Kyo... Remy is probably the only one why does the overhype.


i hope you mean remolous?

i don't like Ryu!! I like Ken and Gouki, Urien,

and about Ryu and the Dark Hadou.

It is in Ryu's blood. Ryu and Gouki have the same bloodline.

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I may not like Ryu, but he really gets shited on for stupid reasons like not having a GF.


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I may not like Ryu, but he really gets shited on for stupid reasons like not having a GF.


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emperor, ryu gets shitted on for the same reasons as to why movies like 40 Year Old Virgin are funny. its not about having a girlfriend. its about getting laid.
now you can deny it all you want, but for regular people a man in his 30's who hasn't gotten laid for reasons other than spiritual tends to become a little funny. heck even Takuma got laid!
true I and some other people tend to blow it out of proportion at times...but hey, all in good humorstick out tongue

also its not just the fact that he doesn't have a girl friend...he doesn't have a personality either. compare him to characters like Cody, Sagat, Batsu, Terry, Iori, K' etc. and he pales to horrible levels.

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also its not just the fact that he doesn't have a girl friend...he doesn't have a personality either. compare him to characters like Cody, Sagat, Batsu, Terry, Iori, K' etc. and he pales to horrible levels.

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where the hell did that come from, cRoudO?! wtf? laughing

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also its not just the fact that he doesn't have a girl friend...he doesn't have a personality either. compare him to characters like Cody, Sagat, Batsu, Terry, Iori, K' etc. and he pales to horrible levels.

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K' and sagat have personalities?


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