None of those telepaths are of Emma Frost's calibre, especially with regard to having physical effects as a result of psionic manipulation, as far as I can tell.
Ignoring Lockheed because I forgot who that is.........
It'd take the Hulk a long time be raped by a telepath of Emma's level due to the nature of his personalities, but he'd still be vulnerable to stuff like sensory alteration (which is what Emma excells at). But I'd still give it to Hulk 9/10x's using comic book logic and 10/10x's using forum logic. Emma won't even have a chance to use her TP unless she starts out a decent distance away, in which case it'd best to use assist TP (like altering Hulk's depth preceptions and tingling his pleasure receptors while keeping the X-Men in full confidence, especially Armor as there's that whole HOLY CRAP THE HULK stigma in the MU).
And Logan, believe it or not, is the second most important person in the fight. His agility + damage soak will be the most valuable asset in aiding Emma get the rape since most the team (Cyclops, Shadowcat, Beast, even Emma if she's not at a safe distance or in Diamond form) will be oneshotted by a thunderclap. Colossus is likely to get bfr'd or thrashed because of his slug it out tendancies. Armor is likely to be cuddled up in a corner crying about being in this situation and would likely get Mr. T thrown out the fight.
The ultra-high frequency sonic attack that affected Juggernaut? Yeah I'm sure Hulk can replicate that by clapping his hands.
A sonic boom is low frequency. Sound propagates as a mechanical wave through matter conduit. A shock wave causes a rise in pressure. Shadowcat phases through matter and energy.
Wolverine has fought Hulk before, he knows how to do it. Which is why he'll be the first one to attack. Although he won't fall, he'll definitely be knocked unconscious. Colossus and Armor can keep the Hulk occupied while Emma takes care of business. If anyone gets fatally wounded, Kitty can phase them out of the way.
Not the point, the point was it's two different methods of attack. A>B>C logic at it's worst. If you wanted to prove a point you should have used Kitty resisting someone like Banshee or something.
A sonic boom is low frequency. Sound propagates as a mechanical wave through matter conduit. A shock wave causes a rise in pressure. Shadowcat phases through matter and energy.
Shadowcat also still hears (and thus her ear drums still rattle from sound waves) and speaks when she's phased, hence a Thunderclap being just as effective *insert idiosyntric smiley here*.
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Which is the point as a Sonic Clap emits a high frequency sound which usually causes the opponents to pass out, or at least become disoriented. What you just did would be like me posting Hulk walk through a Power Beam from Cyclops as proof of him being able to withstand Superman's heat vision. Terrible reasoning.
She's phased through explosions of similar decibel levels, and similar pressure levels, as would result from a sonic boom.
She phased through an explosion that literally leveled a city. She's stood under a rocket launch and been inside an exploding satellite. In Days of Future Past, Katherine Pryde phased the epicentre of a nuclear explosion.
And considering you don't know who Lockheed is, you likely know next to nothing about Kitty, which makes your opinion of what she can and cannot do worthless.
Um yeah it does. Hulk has knocked people like Doc Samson and Hyperion out with it from the sheer sound alone.
And considering you don't know who Lockheed is, you likely know next to nothing about Kitty, which makes your opinion of what she can and cannot due worthless.
Yeah because I don't know one forgettable obscure pet dragon that comes around once in a blue moon I don't know Kitty. More great reasoning from xmarksthespot.
Irony. The person deriding ABC logic a few posts ago, now happily uses it. Doc Samson and Hyperion can't phase through matter and energy now can they? And no, a sonic boom is not high frequency sound, a clap does not emit high frequency sound.
Once in a blue moon? Wikipedia I assume? Lockheed has been with Kitty basically throughout her tenure as an X-Man and in Excalibur.
Right over your head. The point wasn't it knocking them out, it was that it emits a high frequency sound wave which, in turn, has knocked people like Hyperion out (this is called an elaboration, you might want to try it some time!).
Once in a blue moon? Wikipedia I assume? Lockheed has been with Kitty basically throughout her tenure as an X-Man and in Excalibur.
I don't read Excalibur and rarely reference Wiki sooooo
1. Comicvine is usually inaccurate and misses appearances.
2. I didn't say he appeared in every comic she's in I said he's been with her throughout her runs. The picture of Shadowcat on that link even shows Lockheed with her.
3. If you haven't read Excalibur at all that also indicates you're lacking in information on Shadowcat.
4. In case it still doesn't get through, a thunderclap is not high frequency sound.
1. Comicvine is usually inaccurate and misses appearances.
Who cares about maybe one or two missing issues. The point was that X-Men is a really really large book with many characters, forgetting the capabilities of one character who's made about 19 appearances out of 600 or so books doesn't make you less qualified on the subject
3. In case it still doesn't get through, a thunderclap is not high frequency sound.
Despite it being said to in the comics! Good arguing!
Oh and not reading Excalibur now makes you unqualified to talk on the subject of Kitten despite her 100+ out of Excalibur appearances! GREAT STUFF keep it coming my dude!
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