i would say goku 6/10 before he absorbed the dragon balls although he would be far more powerful than sups his fighting time is only about 20 mins or so after the end of gt my money would be on goku all the way
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Goku has no chance against Post - Crisis Superman, let alone Pre - Crisis Superman.
Making GT canon actually makes it worse for him, as it shows him being much weaker than in DBZ (having trouble lifting buildings, getting impaled by a flagpole, getting almost killed by heat only as hot as the surface of the sun, etc.) Furthermore, at the end when he merged with the dragonballs, it was never even revealed what that did for him. For all we know, it could have made him weaker.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: the only reason people think DBZ characters are so powerful is that most of the dialogue of the entire show is them talking about how powerful they are. Typical arguments in their favor go along the line of "Well this guy is stronger than this guy who is stronger than this guy who is stronger than this guy who destroyed a planet". That's way too vague to mean anything without a way of knowing exactly how much stronger. DBZ characters simply have no feats that put them on the levels of DC top tiers, let alone PC Superman. Check out his respect thread, he would speedblitz him to death.
Lucas didn't even really write empire strikes back and return of the jedi so not exactly the best argument.
Anyway I think pre-crisis supes wins just because of the PIS in everything he does. and Goku still can't breath in space in GT right? Superman can just blow off all the atmosphere of the planets in the galaxy and suffocate him. (oh and uh.. he pulls all the planets that have life off to another galaxy so he won't kill those people. he's done similar already)
How mature. I at least always has content in what i write, you just say characters wins because they are skilled. But i really start to think that you just donīt WANT to side with characters besides the ones from Marvel and DC?
this particular fight should be band but not for the reasons you may think. Primarily because this is a comic book oriented forum and secondly because the character representing comic books is superman so for those reasons this fight is always going to be extremely bias in his favor your never going to get a fair opinion here.
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that isnt the point you know as well as i do that the bias will always be in his favor or any other comic character for that matter
it may be different if the DB series was written a bit more seriously then people may be able to accept the fact that goku could beat him but because of the way the series was made no one will ever accept it
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