well, his facehas shown a pretty good ability at blocking Cap's punches..
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I'm uncertain. Does Kang have only his sword or is he in his armor while fighting with his sword?
W/O his armor, Wolverine takes it. Even a toned-down healing factor is still one more healing factor than Kang's got. Kang's only chance would be a lucky opening, and Logan doesn't give up many of those.
If Kang is in his armor, he slowly carves Wolvie to pieces. The bone-claws just aren't cutting it, so to speak.
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Yes, it is. (Note that Kang's takedown by the Young Averngers was facilitated by Asgaurdian/Wiccan magically disrupting said armor)
Im assuming for the purpose of discussion that Kang is approaching this semi-honorably and won't just kick on his forcefield and pin Logan against a wall or whatever until he suffocates.
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__________________ "damn jinzin, you're a real trooper, you provde fact after fact and pages and pages of proof and these wanton miscreants just keep at it"~MERC
Thats true there are examples were Wolverine would defintely lose if he dindt have a HF or adamantuim bones. His fight with Shingen and I think it was stated in New Avengers some Japanese guy cut open his heart up...obvoulsy Wolverines heart healed up and he kicked his ass.
The problem is there is no way of comparing Kangs skill to any of the swordfighters that Wolverine has faced.
I think Gambit and Beast faced SS once. Beast didnt seem to have any major problems dodging SS but cnat remeber the details of the fight.
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Wolverine took pretty much only superficial damage there. That coupled with the fact that he's no sold SS's twin blades and disarmed Ogun of his sword kinda points more to him winning a fight here than not.
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I dunno first Shingen and Wolverine cut each other. Wolverine states that Shin had cut deeper and had hurt him bad...if Wolverine hadnt had an HF he would have been hurt even worse, if cuts Wolverine claws had not been adamantuim his claws would have cut even less.
Shingen cuts him up two more times, obvoulsy without his HF he would have been hurt even more.
Wolverine does injure Shingen some other times in the fight but basically Shin hurt him more and even stabbed him right through the waist.
It was a good showing for Shin not Wolverine. If Wolverien didnt have HF he would have been dead. When Sabretooth put his claws through Wolverine feet without his HF he was in agnoy.
Not dneying that that doesnt change the fcat that somebody in New Avengers said he cut up Wolverine heart, no HF dead Wolverine.
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Damn did you see how Kang dodged Caps shield but it came back and disarmed him. Actually Kang might have finished him off with the sword if it wasnt for that move. Wolverine doest have that option in this fight.
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right on the first count but wrong on the second his bone claws are capible of cutting through solid rock, metal, and in 3 occasions Hulk's skin.. Shingen would have been cut just as much.
What you're ignoring is the fact that as I stated before, this was all superficial damage, even the stab to the oblique is nothing that a regulat person can't stand up to...
And furthermore Wolverine's HF isn't completely stripped of him in this fight. Beast has proven that the damage he can heal from is completely suitable to deal with what Shingen was dishin out there.
Not really.. Shingen was laying down superficial damage that's it.
So what? The man was put through the ringer by LD and OR... it's not like that didn't have anything to do with it. and besides that, what does that prove do you think?
Somebody? You mean SILVER SAMURAI.. who had to resort to shocking Wolverine with secrets from his past to do it..
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Not like Wolverine would have to worry about it.. if that's your standard of how the fight will go down move for move, Wolverine will kill Kang by the end of the third page lol.
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Adamantuim claws are sharper than bone claws so it would have done less damage, but if hes been able to cut thorguh sold rock im not sure it would have made that much difference.
He already stated that he was already hurt bad, no healing factor he would have been hurt even worse, he then proceeds to get hurt even more and after getting stabbed throuth the waist he staggered back, even if you want to call it superficial damage it would have severely impaired his performance leaving him open for a death blow.....BUT since you have said this....my point is null and void because he still gets some HF.
Ok fair enough.
Anyway my point was null and void because Wolverine still gets a HF if Beast can take that sort of damage Wolverine could as well.
He was running away and had to use lots of the environment to help him. Its not like he stood around to fight, he did what anybody in his position would have done RUN. Furthermore why didnt OR use his pheremones? Im pretty sure if OR had activated his pheremones and Wolverine had no HF he would have died.
All it said in the issue was that he got stabbed in heart there was no indication of that happening. I guess it was refering to another issue...are you sure?
If you look on the second page. Kang has knocked Cap on the head and Cap is stunned it looked kang was going for a killer blow but Caps shiled came back and knocked the sword out of his hand.
exactly, shingens not made of anything more durable than granite or steel.. so admantium claws or not wouldn't have made a diff in terms of the damage he sustained.
No one's arguig with you there.
yup.
Again what is that supposed to prove do you think?
And OR DID use his pheremones..
That's how Wolverine lit his ass on fire.
Wolverine probably would have gone down but he stole Deathstrike's breathing aparatus.
Positive. The issue references their last fight in the 2nd part of the Wolverine origins and endings arc.
As I stated before Wolverine doesnt have a bouncing shield. [/B][/QUOTE]
In that same fasion wouldn't you have to admit that the only reason Cap was exposed to a possibly fight-ending blow was because he slung his shield in the first place? Couldn't it be argued that if Wolverine doesn't have a shield to be slinging he won't overexpose himself to be vulnerable in "that same fasion"?
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Sep 6th, 2007 08:35 PM
"damn jinzin, you're a real trooper, you provde fact after fact and pages and pages of proof and these wanton miscreants just keep at it"~MERC
Actually Kang might have finished him off with the sword if it wasnt for that move. Wolverine doest have that option in this fight.
