Cause you don't have any. I've seen you post scans before, so don't bring up this bs about not going to dig up these scans. Two scan is enough. Can you even manage that?
Riiight. They're roughly equal overall.
Same thing. Roughly equal.
Thank you for yourself bs. This still doesn't prove DS>Highfather.
According to you: Odin>Thor>=Superman>Darkseid>Highfather. So Odin>>Highfather?
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Don't know how powerful RUNE King Thor is. The most poweful I can gage Takion is that he took highfather's place. He was more powerful than the creator. As highfather said. BUT, Highfather said DS could destroy Takion. So that would mean DS>Takion>Higfather. According to Highfather's own statements about takion.
Because flagship characters and an icon like Superman is allowed to perform feats he shouldn't and beat people he has no business fighting...even against Kirby characters.
oh so since kirby created him superman has no right defeating him?
why?
supes has fought more powerful beings and lived to tell about it. ds isnt that powerful anyways when it comes down to hand to hand combat. that is his weakness and supes beat his head in when it came down to that.
No one said Supes didn't have any right. What I'm saying is even with the iconic label attached to Kirby's creation, you'd think DC writers would not dismiss his creation in order to boost Supes rep => by beating guys he weaker against. I don't have a problem with him beating on Orion and other Kirby creation in his league or below. But when he consistently beat Kirby creations he shouldn't; it just shows how badly DC is willing to kick around iconic creations of Kirby to boost their golden boy.
He beats up on DS, who according to you is greater than Highfather, but would have problems against Orion or Hal? Does that make sense to you? The guy has problems against top tiers but he's would beat down people above top tier?
Also most his fights against Darkseid were physical. A more well written DS that's more versatile in his power should mop him.
So has Thor, Surfer, Quasar, and other top tier heroes. They've all beaten beings greater than Odin on more than one occassion. But on average, they aren't even in Odin's league so let's not start. Strange has beaten people that far outclass Odin. But without prep and his role as a hero, he'd get murdered against Odin and most of his highend rogues.
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superman wouldnt just stomp orion or hal but would soundly defeat them both for a sold majority. ds's stock has fallen in the past ten years. kirby wrote him as being more powerful but dc owns him and can do what they want to him. superman doesnt beat ds every time but has kicked his ass on more than one occasion. just accept it.
ds isnt that imprressive when the fight boils down to hand to hand combat.
usually when thor,quasar,and the surfer had beaten more powerful villains or what not there have been plot devices in place to show how and why that can happen.
see the diff.
ps there was no plot device when superman beat darkseids ass in apokolips now. it was one on one and darkseid looked bad.
So wait. He'd have a solid majority? Against these guys? LOL. What about Bill, Quasar, and Thor? He would stomp them but would soundly defeat them as well, right?
And any one of these guys against the surperiors like Ganthet or Highfather would be a stomping. You think Hal would even come pull a few wins against Ganthet if they fought? Or Orion against Highfather?
So would you conclude the same if Superman fought Highfather?
Er...if you agree that he isn't impressive at hand to hand, then a more competantly written DS should mop the floor with Supes. But he's not written that way against Superman now is he?
Then how do you explain Thor knocking down a Celestial when three skyfathers couldn't even dent one? How about explaining Thor escaping Demogorge when half a dozen hell lords couldn't? Rookie Quasar beat down a Watcher, care to explain that one?
Except he used mostly hand to hand against Supes. You really think Supes would beat Highfather?
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DS has beaten highfather and scared Highfather. Highfather has also said the Takion was more powerful than he, but DS would destroy Takion if he found him. But in all seriousness, Highfather would wave his staff and turn superman into a kryptonite statue. Same as DS could if not for idiot writers in two stories. doesn't matter much. DS is far more powerful than Superman. And he isn't going around fighting people hand to hand any more. He just waves his hand and pwns people.
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Riiight. They're roughly equal overall. 
Sep 17th, 2007 09:23 PM
