Instead of throwing around accusations of "troll" why not mount an actual argument as to why the characters and entities I listed would not be sufficient?
Are you aware of what they are? Are you well versed in marvel at all?
And for all your cries of "troll" keep in mind I've been here for TWO YEARS longer than you without ever being banned.
Okay so due to that scan, what you say is canon. In this case who in the universe would want to invade it's realm outside of Thanos Dr. Doom or Darkseid? Is there anyone in DC or Marvel that could take the ALE Entity on in it's own home dimension? Hyperbole would indicate that it's power there is limitless. I know that DC is not, and was not part of this thread, but I can't think of anyone with that kind of power outside omnipotent type beings.
Who says that the oponnent would be able to BFR the Anti-Life Entity ?
Anyway
For the sake of the discussion, let's say that this takes place on a ground where both the Anti-Life Entity and his oponennt's power works normally, with the Anti-Life Entity surviving.
I'm more interested who is more powerfull than it.
Galactus + Nullifier= The nullifier is quite possibly the strongest weapon that currently exists in marvel. it's part of galactus, that's why he's listed with it. It's power DOES vary with the intelligence/willpower of the user, but I think Galactus is powerful enough to make full use of it.
The nullifier has been shown on panel to be able to eliminate and then reconstruct the entire marvel multiverse instantaneously, and simultaneously. This isn't just one universe, it's potentially tens of thousands if not more. Universes full of abstract and "omnipotent" beings. It can destroy entire timelines, ensuring events never occur in the first place. It's even destroyed the very concept of death entirely during Earth X/Universe X. If it's capable of destruction on a multiversal scale (with apparently nothing in the marvel multiverse capable of defending against it) I'd give it good odds of being able to eliminate the ALE as well.
Anyone with the infinity gauntlet.
The infinity gauntlet still "technically" exists- the tribunal just has a decree in place that the gems won't work together at the moment. But anyway, the full power of the gauntlet renders the user completely omnipotent and omnicient. Total and infinite control of power, the mind, the soul, space, and time. The effectiveness of it depends on the user, but with someone well versed like Thanos, Adam warlock, or the magus- it too is capable of creation and destruction on a multiversal scale. It blew away all of the top tier abstracts (death, order, chaos, eternity, infinity, galactus etc) like they were nothing in Warlock #1. Only the tribunal has shown to have power exceeding it. And even THEN, Warlock #1 states that a conflict between the two would be a fight that would lay waste to the multiverse in the process. I would give the Gauntlet with a competent user also good odds over the ALE.
Anyone with a substantial amount of cosmic containment units.
see the previous entry- the cosmic cubes are ALSO instruments and conduits of power on a universal scale. The only difference here is that the units are semi-sentient and there are things they will not do- such as effect souls. While one cube is below the IG in power, the cubes can apparently be linked- The magus managed to link five of them into a configuration that Thanos claimed was "VERY close" to the power of the full infinity gauntlet. (and he would know, of course.)
The Goddess (a female version of the magus, more or less) managed to arrange a configuration of THIRTY cubes into a configuration that would have eliminated "all evil" from existence entirely. Essentially, she would have become the supreme being of the marvel universe if her plan had come to fruition. The cubes with a competent user are ALSO on the level of the ALE.
616 Jaspers.
This one is a bit tougher. 616 jaspers is an omnipotent and unkillable reality warper who is apparently undefeatable while there is still reality to manipulate. Per Merlin, had he not been stopped via a plot device, there would have been no force in the omniverse capable of stopping him. he too would have become the mad god of the marvel universe.
From ALL of marvel?
Pre Retcon beyonder. I realize pre retcon beyonder has been edited from official continuity, that's why I separated him out into another category. retcons can also always be reversed, so you never know if he'll make an appearance again.
PRB was a sentient universe, the size of which was so massive that the marvel omniverse was "as a drop of water in the ocean" to it. He was ALSO unstoppable- he defeated every abstract that existed at that time with but a wave of his hand- celestials were throwing entire planets at him and it was nothing to him. He was only defeated by voluntarily turning himself mortal. The beyonder was also ominpotent and unkillable, with no peer except-
OR
Pre Retcon molecule man was sharing the beyonder's power through a plot device that escapes me at the moment. The two were apparently equal in power- he's been shown on panel willing stars and galaxies into existence, and firing off blasts that would destroy "a million universes." the guy was a beast. he's essentially the same as the entry above.
OR
Doom with power stealing equipment circa secret wars.
This one's a bit silly, but I like to bring it up since it amuses me. During secret wars, Doom apparently was running around with equipment that allowed him to absorb the power of Galactus AND his solar system sized worldship, and very nearly the entire power of the pre-retcon beyonder. It's POSSIBLE that this version of doom would be able to absorb a good deal of the power of the ALE as well (think again how much power Pre-retcon beyonder had at that point) but it's probably not worth debating excessively.
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