What has Fury ever done that would make him be able to annihilate Galactus... with ease none-the-less? Stand up to a reality warper (who, by all rights is powerful, but that's not Galactus's style), teleport, stand up to powerful destruction?
Just because Jaspers is powerful, that doesn't mean that anyone who beats him a certain way, is going to defeat Galactus.
It survived the destruction of a universe but if it haven't absorbed the size of a cave in the 616 according to master on page 1 the 616 Jaspers reality warp on it would have killed it, so a single warp from jaspers > Nullification from the CN... apparently
Gender: Male Location: somewhere within time & space
You're right. Perhaps the fact that she's a "god" (I left that out)
Or we can also look at her durability during HOM,
when the Chaos Wave swept through the dimensional walls of Otherworld,
it was a direct hit on the Starlight Citidel: (which contains a near-Multiverse withIN)
(please log in to view the image)
................................................................................................................
When this happened, the Starlight Citidel was smashed down,
this caused all the UniverseS withIN the Citidel to amalgamate,
and resurrect Jaspers:
(please log in to view the image)
................................................................................................................
Roma was ko'd for a few seconds,
but as we can see, Roma regains consciousness quickly:
She also has the entire upper level of the Citidel on top of her:
Gender: Male Location: somewhere within time & space
Survive the nullification of Time/Space (unharmed) which Galactus himself fears.
Went toe to toe, survived and defeated a being who's power is beyond nullifiers.
I'll elaborate, Fury would definitely have to go through his pattern,
fight, test, adapt and learn how to win.
One of the top 3 most powerful Reality warpers ever.
"Style?" ... Jaspers tried to alter reality, but Fury was simply unaffected,
so Jaspers turned it into a hand to hand combat,
in this manner, Jaspers was able to weaken the Fury with sheer brute force.
Remember, Jaspers can make himself as strong as he wants withIN his warp.
It's not only that though,
normal Galactus simply would not be able hurt classic Fury imo.
So Fury has all day to adapt and figure a way to win.
Fury's blasts are ridiculously powerful too,
even Matrix/Merlyn got his hands burned by a Fury blast.
Respected friend.
I disagree.
Correct. 616 Jaspers' warp > nullifiers of Time/Space.
Jaspers was no joke fellas.
__________________
Last edited by Mr Master on Dec 29th, 2007 at 07:45 PM
A being that would have killed him one the spot if he hadn't absorbed the Computer the switches from The moon to the ocean floor and then to the sun would have killed it.
But it needs a lot of time to figure out a way to defeat MJJ none the less and the battle wore it down.
Unaffected, it was turned into a ball before it adapted and It didn't change it form until they where back in 238 where MJJ had no reality to warp thus IMO no way to keep fury in that form.
And he was teleported outside his warp during there fights by fury wasn't he???
He could hammer on it just like MJJ did, and MJJ had just "one" power that was to warp reality Galactus has the PC and can produce a number of effects against it. And I have no idea about the durability of Merlyn.
I apparently isn't
It's okay
So it would seem yes and that looks a bit odd IMO.
We know Jaspers was no joke, but fury itself is like you said a plot device that only managed to defeat MJJ because of it having gained control over a computer the size of a cave and had the ability to resist the warp because of that els it wouldn't have stood a chance against MJJ.
Gender: Male Location: somewhere within time & space
What difference does it make?
Fury still withstood a Nullifier, without absorbing the CPU.
Fury also withstood 238 Jaspers' warp (which engulfed the entire 238 Universe)
Time/Space everything was taken over by 238 Jaspers' warp,
including 238 Galactus I'm sure, since the entire Reality was warped.
btw. I don't see the point of the scan Ut.
Bottomline:
Even without the CPU, Fury is still far more durable than Galactus.
Well I'm not surprised, classic Jaspers was a "god" destined to reform the Omniverse,
it would've been silly for Fury to win easily.
Yes. According to Fury's bio, Fury was immune to both Jaspers' warps.
Not quite friend.
Fury was warped into a ball,
and then Fury shapeshifted out of it in an instant. (hence the immunity)
And you're incorrect about Jaspers keeping Fury warped through out the fight,
Fury was shapeshifting on his own,
it had nothing to do with Jaspers after the "ball" incident.
In fact, they were both shapeshifting into creature-like beings,
while they battled hand to hand.
Yes. Because Fury was immune to his warp.
While Fury just stands there and takes the punishment right?
Galactus is not 616 Jaspers ... not even close.
Warping Reality is the ultimate power,
one only needs this ability to be able to do anything.
(after that, it's just a matter of scale)
PC is a joke in comparison.
Matrix/Merlyn? god-like.
I don't see why.
I agree and disagree.
While it's true, Fury was Jaspers' plot device to lose,
the Fury was a monster in it's own right.
Let's not overlook the Fact,
that Fury withOUT the CPU,
withstood the Nullification of all Time/Space of it's native Universe,
and withstood 238 Jaspers' warp
(which completely engulfed everything (concepts and all) in Reality 238)
Gender: Male Location: somewhere within time & space
Somewhat, several mixed up accounts of the events but he's cool.
I agree, it's been debated before anyway.
I elaborated in the first post I replied to you in.
Fury would definitely have to follow his common pattern,
fight, test, adapt, and thus learn how to win.
So I recant my staement, it shouldn't be easily,
it should take work, but with the same end result,
Fury winning somehow.
? ... ok ...
I didn't say it would take him all day,
I said Fury has all day.
(meaning Fury has all the time in the world, since Galactus can never hurt it)
And again, it wouldn't be "easily" but imo,
based on the real Fury's showings,
confirmed statements by other cats in the classic arc,
and the Fury's and Jaspers' bios,
Fury can defeat Galactus level beings, perhaps not easily, but imo definitely.
__________________
Last edited by Mr Master on Dec 30th, 2007 at 01:11 AM
The point of the scan is to show you that Fury could be killed harmed and destroyed by something far less then a universal nullification. The Switz's between the moon the ocean floor and the sun.
Agreed.
Well to my knowledge 238 Jaspers never tried to warp Fury did he???
Thus he was also at that point of time vulnerable to reality warping hence my reasons for saying above that 238 Jaspers most likely never warped him.
He was the ball of the entire fight was he not??? I doesn't see him taking another form sure I see the spikes and so forth but I doesn't see him change back to his old self before they are located in the 238 dimension.
Jaspers was changing.
Became Immune, IMO.
I didn't say that Fury wouldn't attack too.
I'm not disagreeing on this I'm disagreeing on the fact that because fury toke down MJJ apparently he is capable of taking down practically everyone below MJJ. That's the impression I'm being given about Fury.
Well what did we see Jaspers use against him other then pure physical attacks nothing no energy blast he didn't even try and so forth.
Perhaps but Reality warping is within the abilities for a user of the PC.
God Like Durability. Just like they showed in the recent comic but on another note based on what???
You don't think that it is strange that nullification is below MJJ wave of his hand??? and that fury survived nullification but would be killed by having the environment around him changed???
And would have been killed by changing the battle ground I find the durability very inconsistent.
KMC Community Forums
Dec 28th, 2007 10:19 PM
imo SC.
but on another note based on what??? 
