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celestialdemon
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Odin wins


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Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Exactly. Myths are meant as symbolism. Their internal logic is also based so heavily on outdated understanding of the world as to nearly be meaningless to someone who isn't a scholar (and totaly meaningless for establishing a "power level")


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Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Exactly. Myths are meant as symbolism. Their internal logic is also based so heavily on outdated understanding of the world as to nearly be meaningless to someone who isn't a scholar (and totaly meaningless for establishing a "power level")


Yeah im gonna have to agree with that. At any rate it was supposed to be a semi-serious thread anyway.

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Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Nah man dont think Ugard reappears after that...


Well From what I remember about the lines it does.

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Thats not the point of the myth, there two.
1. Its there explanation for natural ocurrances.
2. What happens to you when you cross the line. There are two versions of this story. The one you are refering to is probably from Snorris Eddas. There is also another one from poetic Eddas where Loki gets tied up because he insulted the gods and when Thor turned up Loki decided to stop.
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1. like I said

2. Isn't all data on the subject agreed on Balder dying because of Lokis manipulation...


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Well From what I remember about the lines it does.


Pretty sure you're wrong.....


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1. like I said


Right? Dont see how that contradicts that Thor strength comes from sprituality.

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2. Isn't all data on the subject agreed on Balder dying because of Lokis manipulation...


Well apparently one person was telling me that odin has something to do with it as well....but I have to look into it.

Yeah but again like I said the point about Loki getting tied up is about what happens to you if you do certain actions. The purpose of it is not to demonstrate the power of Loki.

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Pretty sure you're wrong.....


Okay I'm not...

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Right? Dont see how that contradicts that Thor strength comes from sprituality.[/B]


I said that the entire story also was supposed to tell why a earth quake happened.

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Well apparently one person was telling me that odin has something to do with it as well....but I have to look into it.[/B]


Never heard that.

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Yeah but again like I said the point about Loki getting tied up is about what happens to you if you do certain actions. The purpose of it is not to demonstrate the power of Loki. [/B]


No I know that however I'm drawing forth that incident in order to show how powerful the mythology Thor would be in a confrontation lets face it the Real Thor vs Comic Odin is a discussion with a being with "feats" that waries greatly against a being that have the Feats that can be used in a discussion. Therefore I'm drawing forth the incidents which I think can be used to give a impression of what the Real Thor can do.


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Okay I'm not...


Cant see nothin about Utgard here

http://www.fortunecity.com/roswell/...kvidha.html#top


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I said that the entire story also was supposed to tell why a earth quake happened.


Ok.

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Never heard that.


Yeah thats why i said id look into it, I think he was probably stretching, but you would be suprised what things you can find when you do in-depth research.


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No I know that however I'm drawing forth that incident in order to show how powerful the mythology Thor would be in a confrontation lets face it the Real Thor vs Comic Odin is a discussion with a being with "feats" that waries greatly against a being that have the Feats that can be used in a discussion. Therefore I'm drawing forth the incidents which I think can be used to give a impression of what the Real Thor can do.


Ok

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Hercules is myth vs thor of myth will be a better fight but then again in myth hercules had both power and brain and he was more impressive than even thor

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Cant see nothin about Utgard here

http://www.fortunecity.com/roswell/...kvidha.html#top




Ok.



Yeah thats why i said id look into it, I think he was probably stretching, but you would be suprised what things you can find when you do in-depth research.




Ok


Okay Underfortunately I cannot post the entire lyrics from my book sad

True but it doesn't change the fact that we have to incidents Same outcome but very different reasons why Loki gets gis punishment.


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Hercules is myth vs thor of myth will be a better fight but then again in myth hercules had both power and brain and he was more impressive than even thor


Thor had brains too actually. Thats what people say who dont know the myths in-depth.

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Thor was stock in a gaint booth and he did know how to get out while hercules on the other hand figure out how to beat the earth god son of mother earth who was unbeatable while in contact with he earth, the trick the titan atlas to take the weight of the heavens, he figure out how to killed the hydra, he used the nemian lion own claw to killed it. In all of myth hercules is unbeatable he conquer entire empires on his own and he even invaded india and the lands of the foreign gods. He was able to stop the twlight of the olympians gods in their battle with the giants and he along killed severals powerful giants, on the other hand thor failed the stop the end of the norse gods and his entire race die. Featswise hercules outclass thor in myth

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Thor was stock in a gaint booth and he did know how to get out while


He was a what? Are you refering to Utgard-Loki? iF you are Loki was as just as fooled as Thor was, so that doesnt prove anything.

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hercules on the other hand figure out how to beat the earth god son of mother earth who was unbeatable while in contact with he earth, the trick the titan atlas to take the weight of the heavens, he figure out how to killed the hydra, he used the nemian lion own claw to killed it. In all of myth hercules is unbeatable he conquer entire empires on his own and he even invaded india and the lands of the foreign gods.


Thors killed loads of giants and monsters doesnt prove anything. Hes also created stars before Hercules hasnt. So really on feats Thor comes out on top.


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He was able to stop the twlight of the olympians gods in their battle with the giants and he along killed severals powerful giants, on the other hand thor failed the stop the end of the norse gods and his entire race die. Featswise hercules outclass thor in myth


Thor didnt fail to stop the twilight of the gods because it wasnt even his job alone to do it. He did his part and killed the world serpent. What twilight of the Olympian gods they dont have one.

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