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Adamantium is Gods toilet paper - it can take alot of shit

wolverine soloes because he can stand toe 2 toe with hulk..and hulk pwns these 2.


(do i pass the wolverine fanboy test).

imo - Batman, one shotted DD, one shotted, CapUSA 2 shotted.

Spidey/Wolvie/Tooth vs Grimm n Colly - if they are vulnrable to Adamantium, then team 2 can pull off 3/10 but for the majority - they become K to the IzzO'ed.



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If Thor had given his all, he would at least have used lightning.
He had no reason to sit there and take a @ss beating. I'm certain it wasn't part of his plan to get his clock cleaned by Colossus.


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Have you read anything with Ult Colossus in it? I'm not a Colossus fan but I have to side with him, he survived a localized nuclear explosion from one of Hawkeye's arrows and dragged a submarine from the depths of the ocean
He also overpowered Magneto's magnetic field and stopped a massive speeding train dead in it's tracks without even flinching.


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Now that I think about it Thor's hammer looked like it was charged when Colossus was smashing him into the ground. Could be wrong though.


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Ult. Colossus and Thing FTW.


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As we've seen a regular strength human can take Ult Colossus out a fight just by pressing down on his eyes, but without any prep the members of the team probably wouldn't know this.
If Batman has some sonic devices on him they could be used to take Colossus down.

But Thing & Colossus take the majority I think.


If were talking about ultimate Wolverine then Ultimate Wolverine takes the cake being the Wolverine is now the first Mutant in the Ultimate Universe.
Wolverine has survived his arms being torn off, legs being hurled 2 miles away etc.

Ultimate Cap is also formiadable, More powerful than the mainstream cap using guns etc.. He is stronger than 616 Cap, took down the russian version of cap, took down Ult wolverine, held his own for a while against Ult hulk.

Ultimate Sabertooth has his head cut off and survived....

The rest are just overkill

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If were talking about ultimate Wolverine then Ultimate Wolverine takes the cake being the Wolverine is now the first Mutant in the Ultimate Universe.
Wolverine has survived his arms being torn off, legs being hurled 2 miles away etc.

Ultimate Cap is also formiadable, More powerful than the mainstream cap using guns etc.. He is stronger than 616 Cap, took down the russian version of cap, took down Ult wolverine, held his own for a while against Ult hulk.

Ultimate Sabertooth has his head cut off and survived....

The rest are just overkill


None of those feats match what Colossus has done.

Thing is just overkill....

Okay to seriously address your points (which probably doesn't matter as I don't think these are Ult characters besides Cap)

1Wolverine "takes the cake" by being the first mutant in the Ult Verse......how?

2Sure he has survived that doesn't mean he's more powerful, just means Colossus or Thing can tear his arms off and throw his limbs two miles away from his body!

3Using guns makes him more powerful than 616 Cap? News to me, and the bullets will penetrate someone who survived a small nuclear explosion will they?

4Russian version of Cap is as powerful as Thing or Colossus is he? Nope, he was beaten fairly quickly. I'm sure he was locked up for several years and had a shield made of bone and skin.
He didn't beat Hulk though did he, so it's hardly a big enough feat to make a case in this fight.

5Sabretooth's head wasn't completely severed, he tells Wolverine this because that's how he survived....not sure how this helps him though.


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None of those feats match what Colossus has done.

Thing is just overkill....

Okay to seriously address your points (which probably doesn't matter as I don't think these are Ult characters besides Cap)

1Wolverine "takes the cake" by being the first mutant in the Ult Verse......how?

2Sure he has survived that doesn't mean he's more powerful, just means Colossus or Thing can tear his arms off and throw his limbs two miles away from his body!

3Using guns makes him more powerful than 616 Cap? News to me, and the bullets will penetrate someone who survived a small nuclear explosion will they?

4Russian version of Cap is as powerful as Thing or Colossus is he? Nope, he was beaten fairly quickly. I'm sure he was locked up for several years and had a shield made of bone and skin.
He didn't beat Hulk though did he, so it's hardly a big enough feat to make a case in this fight.

5Sabretooth's head wasn't completely severed, he tells Wolverine this because that's how he survived....not sure how this helps him though.


1. Ulitmate Origins #1 just out read it smile *spoiler* Mutants were created by the weapon X program... they created the X gene and wanted it to spread to start an entire race of super people... wolverine is the first*spoiler*

2. True, but it shows how hard it is to kill him and the Hulk is more powerful than Collosus and Thing in the Ult. Universe the entire ultimates coudln't take him down. Wasp had to enter him brain and sting him to take him down and Wolverine can cut through Collosus skin, il find the scan somewhere i've got the every comics from the ult. universe (if you want a an issue just PM me and il try and il use an image host to send them to you?)

3. Just as you said, just because he survived the nuke doesn't mean he's more pwoerful

4. True but He was in a stalemate with Heir Kaiser who's strength and durability proberbly surpasses Collosus's.

5. His head was held on by a SINGLE thread..... and he managed to heal from that... pretty impressive by anyones standards.. again i have the scan somewhere


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that scan of colossus being cut was a danger room scenario, if its the one i'm thinking of...

when they actually did try, all that happened was logan causing sparks on colossus' skin...


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that scan of colossus being cut was a danger room scenario, if its the one i'm thinking of...

when they actually did try, all that happened was logan causing sparks on colossus' skin...


hmm yes it might be let me try and find the scan.... but it is stated several times in the opening issues of ult. X-men that wolverine is the most dangerous mutant on earth


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1. Ulitmate Origins #1 just out read it smile *spoiler* Mutants were created by the weapon X program... they created the X gene and wanted it to spread to start an entire race of super people... wolverine is the first*spoiler*

2. True, but it shows how hard it is to kill him and the Hulk is more powerful than Collosus and Thing in the Ult. Universe the entire ultimates coudln't take him down. Wasp had to enter him brain and sting him to take him down and Wolverine can cut through Collosus skin, il find the scan somewhere i've got the every comics from the ult. universe (if you want a an issue just PM me and il try and il use an image host to send them to you?)

3. Just as you said, just because he survived the nuke doesn't mean he's more pwoerful

4. True but He was in a stalemate with Heir Kaiser who's strength and durability proberbly surpasses Collosus's.

5. His head was held on by a SINGLE thread..... and he managed to heal from that... pretty impressive by anyones standards.. again i have the scan somewhere


I'm off to work so I don't have the time to properly respond to every point. However you're wrong on almost every retort here:

It's NOT Ult Wolverine not that it matters if he's "mutant zero" or not,
Ult Wolverine HASN'T Cut through Ult Colossus's skin,

I don't need to PM you for issues, everything I'm saying or the points I'm making are based on what I've read. Apart from Ult FF I've read pretty much everything in the Ult Universe.

Surviving a nuke doesn't make him more powerful than who? Ultimate Cap?? I think it does confused


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hmm yes it might be let me try and find the scan.... but it is stated several times in the opening issues of ult. X-men that wolverine is the most dangerous mutant on earth


they say the same in 616, doesnt mean he can't be taken down...


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X-men that wolverine is the most dangerous mutant on earth


And he's repeatedly had his @ss kicked, Cyclops took him out with a single shot after coming back from the Savage Land.

Jean knocked him out when he was trying to kill someone from Weapon X in they're very first encounter.

Magneto immoblized him along with the rest of the X-Men until ULT COLOSSUS GOT UP AND KNOCKED MAGENTO AROUND, NO ONE ELSE HAD THE STRENGTH OR THE WILL TO DO SO.

I could go on but it's not Ult Wolverine


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I'm off to work so I don't have the time to properly respond to every point. However you're wrong on almost every retort here:

It's NOT Ult Wolverine not that it matters if he's "mutant zero" or not,
Ult Wolverine HASN'T Cut through Ult Colossus's skin,

I don't need to PM you for issues, everything I'm saying or the points I'm making are based on what I've read. Apart from Ult FF I've read pretty much everything in the Ult Universe.

Surviving a nuke doesn't make him more powerful than who? Ultimate Cap?? I think it does confused


ooo ok. it not ult. wolverine my mistake


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It makes him more durable after which he incapacitated.....

and it WAS ult. wolverine... James Howlett is his name.


No in THIS fight it's 616 Wolverine. In the list of team members only Captain America is mentioned as being from the Ultimate verse.

I'm off to work, I'll come back to this later.


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No in THIS fight it's 616 Wolverine. In the list of team members only Captain America is mentioned as being from the Ultimate verse.

I'm off to work, I'll come back to this later.


no no i edited my post i was under the impression the entire team was ultimate


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I'm off to work so I don't have the time to properly respond to every point. However you're wrong on almost every retort here:

It's NOT Ult Wolverine not that it matters if he's "mutant zero" or not,
Ult Wolverine HASN'T Cut through Ult Colossus's skin,

I don't need to PM you for issues, everything I'm saying or the points I'm making are based on what I've read. Apart from Ult FF I've read pretty much everything in the Ult Universe.

Surviving a nuke doesn't make him more powerful than who? Ultimate Cap?? I think it does confused


I wasn'tt insulting you knowledge.. i was simple asking if you wanted to read some issues that you may have missed... i might not agree with you who wins but the ultimate universe has some great storylines i just asked if you wanted to read some but evidently you already have....


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ultimate colosuss is nothing to be played with, he solos them


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Ulti colossus gives some of his drugs to the Thing and they both go on a druggy rage ftw.


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Ulti colossus gives some of his drugs to the Thing and they both go on a druggy rage ftw.


O shit i totally forgot about the drugs.... and i thought it only help mutants.... it makes a mutant almost like a GOD i think if i read the issue right?

Colossus can't even lift his arms without it LOL


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