Shiva and Bruce are street level, they approach peak human powers but are overall only street level. Gambit at his base is already peak human, with the bio-kinetic amp he becomes meta-human.
i know you weren't trying to be funny.........but man that was funny.
gambit isn't peak human at base level,and he's only peak human when charged.check any stats page,i'm sure they'll agree(well at least most,some a fan-made,which always leaves room for doubt)
i'd rather stick to stats then showings.you wanna know why? because sometimes authors go insane and display a character completely wrong(bat-god would be an example).sure some argue that if the character is written in a way that contradicts his stats regularly,then that should count,but there are some characters who are(like bat-god),and still people want to ignore that.they usually have a good reason(like the feats being completely ridiculous),but i'd just prefer to avoid all that interpertation by sticking to the facts.i'm sorry if it was convinent for me to do so this time,but "that's the way the cookie crumbles",as they say.
don't any of you have access to wikipedia? or marvel? etc,etc?
i should've known not to post an opinion opposite of what ecryone else was saying.anyway,what's done is done.i'll post from some sites that have his stats to put an end to this(why do i feel that that won't put na end to this?)
anyway i believe shiva to be faster because that is what she appears to be most often whenever they fight.i believe batman has even said she was once(but you don't have to acknowledge that,because i'm not shufflin' around to get a scan for it)
anyway(again),here's what marvel's stat page on gambit has to say about his speed:
"Gambit's ability to tap energy also grants him near-superhuman agility and dexterity"
here's what wikipedia says:
"peak human speed, stamina, agility, and reflexes
Skilled hand-to-hand combatant, strategist, and thief"
and:
"Gambit's body, as a living generator of bio-kinetic energies, possesses physiological attributes adapted for constant motion. As a result, his mutation has increased his body's innate physical qualities ( such as speed, reflexes/reactions, stamina, agility, flexibility, dexterity, coordination, balance, and endurance) to the very limit of natural human capability."
in other words,GAMBIT IS PEAK HUMAN WHEN CHARGED.booyah
dagnabbit. i knew that was pointless but i still posted all that. namorsubby why do you choose to go that extra mile?
yes,i am talking to myself,what of it.
anyway i just think shiva takes the majority because she's just as fast IMO,but she a much better h2h fighter and isn't afraid to kill.also because i'm sure whatever gambit is throwing(especially cards),shiva can dodge.all that is,of course, just my opinion.and if anyone thinks different,i respectfully disagree. no harm no foul
She can dodge the cards, but can she dodge the explosion?
I don't care if you disagree, that's fine, it'd be pointless if everyone thought the same. Everyone is just saying their opinion, how you back it up is what matters.
Just saying why would Gambit be afraid to kill Shiva?
This is verse Thread. Were putting them in battle to see who wins in a fight. Seem by adding that statement she not afraid to kill increase her power or something
lol.i guess i shoud've said, "SHE IS RUTHLESS". like wolverine or deadshot or thanos etc etc. gambit isn't know for his lack of concern for human life.i don't just assume that both opponents are bloodthirsty when they're placed in a match. i consider their character.
countless characters have lost battles/been killed because their opponent was willing to what was needed while they weren't.so yeah, in a way, ruthlessness does add to one's power.and it is a significant factor in a fight.
Gambit loses. he fights by throwing/charging cards with a swing of the arm
If gambit sticks to defense: charging his staff and his body with kinetic energy he can give Shiva a light workout.
Gambit with Kinetic amping matches Shiva in speed agility and Reflexes.
Shiva has the edge in hitting power, and *precog* to clarify one of her abilities is future knowledge of a person's actions through body reading. With Shiva's prowess as a fighter such knowledge is Power. Too much Power for Gambit to contain.
Gambit 1/10
The 1 is for -The Gambit Gets a rush of blood to the Head Scenario.-
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I wasn't disagreeing with you. Well, sort've, actually, because I think Gambit will take a close majority; like in the Batman fight, if they close in, one strike is enough to kill Gambit.
I don't think Shiva is faster than Batman. Perhaps she relies more on agility in her fights, but FASTER? Nah. They're both absolute peak human.
Gambit is enhanced thanks to his power anyways. I still can't believe Shiva has chance against his speed/strenght/explosion power touches... or staff to poke her
The difference is, you're using an outlandish showing from a character who has typical showings far under "BatGod" mode. Everything we've brought up here are well within Gambit's physical abilities as he's shown us.
Don't you have access to a comic?
Come now, you're not being persecuted. Everyone so far has read your argument.
No. If we go by the sources you use, Gambit has a 7 in energy projection and fighting skills, a 6 in strength, and a 6 in speed. That literally means he has the energy projection of Living Tribunal ,as someone pointed out, is as strong as Wonder Man, and is as fast Quicksilver. Throw in the fighting skills of Wolverine/Captain America/Iron Fist ,which according to your sources, Gambit has, and this fight quickly changes into spite Gambit absolutely curbstomps Shiva without her having any way to defend herself going by your sources.
Do you not see how useless just pure stats/bios can be?
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i know you weren't trying to be funny.........but man that was funny.
