there was nothing which indicated that the timeline had been "broken." nothing at all.
and yes, S1M was quite weak when he accomplished this feat. however, his suit had nothing to do with it. supes tapped the remaining solar energy in his body's cells to do what he did.
here's the facts: S1M physically busted through the timestream, completely unaided - while extremely weak.
was not genis 'wanda-amped' during that instance, thus making the feats he accomplished during HoM somewhat non-canonical to his powerset?
S1M made AS supes look rather pathetic, actually. sure, krypto blindsided S1M, but in the next page he had krypto by the throat like the minor nuisance he was.
anyhow, if you recall, S1M never attempted to face the chronovore. however, judging by how he dealt with AS supes (who did bind the creature,) it obviously wouldn't have been much of a challenge... and please remember that S1M never wanted to hurt AS supes. all he was trying to do was get him to go see his dying father, instead of fighting the chronovore.
as for S1M battling solaris, once he applied force-vision, he could have beaten it. the only thing that stopped him from doing this, was when he thought prime had just been killed.
now when AS supes 'beat' solaris, it was in it's infancy. nowhere near as powerful as when S1M dealt with it.
i never gave S1M abstract level power. not once. i simply think that if sentry was capable of holding genis off, why couldn't S1M?
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And then tapped into his suit's reserves for the power to do what he did...
Firstly, the OP doesn't specify. It's Genis period. And without CIS. Secondly, he is no weaker sane than insane. He simply doesn't hold back. And Photon is his strongest incarnation.
Kind of hard to boom tube into a place where spacetime is literally bisected.
Except that SS and Genis can phase through objects.
No. Genis holding back was stalemating Maestro physically. SS overpowered Hulk and through him into a wall, and when grappling - had Ravenous on his knees.
Besides that, SS or Genis can wipe out the Super Sun with a black hole or energy blast. Or as I said, BFR to the Microverse. Not to mention that Genis is a top tier energy absorber and manipulator, with total control over photons - which is what powers Supes 1M.
Thanos or Genis could shut down DD's mind. Thanos has done so to the freakin' Beyonder and Fallen One, while Genis is an omniversal telepath. And then there's Thanos' famous Force Block, too.
Meh if he was at his insane levels I don't see why he couldn't have dealt with sentry easily even while holding back,and again no enyalus he didn't tap anything but his own powers,its the most recent version of genis and photon is not some beyond herald being,boomtubes teleport people across different dimensions/universes all the time it won't be hard,yes he is as supermans complete superior in physical power they measure his power in stars he can blow a sun out with just his breathe while he is weakened,and you keep acting like 1 mil will sit there and let them do anything,prove genis can take his power o wait you can't,1mil is beyond herald level beings by leaps and bounds.
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since when did h/p Doomsday have a mind to shut down. And I thought he was immune to any kind of energy blast or manip. are you sure you re thinking about the right characters for the thread?
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The portal was broken, which was why they couldn't get back. He punched through it.
Nope. He specifically said that the suit he wears stores power in his suit, which is how he's able to travel to places that don't have the Super Sun. And he tapped all of the stored power in his suit, thus greatly aging/weakening him. I do agree he was already weakening prior to that point. Couldn't even fly or use his HV.
He was hitting a time portal that wasn't working. It isn't like he was punching through thin air and voila, 853rd century.
Naw. He wasn't amped at all for one. And two he knew, because of him existing in other time periods and places, that this wasn't how things should be. He just had his potential unlocked again - becoming pure Photonic energy. Like in his Photon incarnation.
No he didn't. Sure, he was telling AS Supes, "This is foolish, I'm stronger than you. I'm faster than you. You're not even grown up yet" or somesuch thing. But he wasn't dominating him. And again, AS was a teenager and it was far before the sunamp. He was a vastly weaker incarnation of AS Supes and S1M did not trash him by any means.
You're right. Point withdrawn.
Noooo...He uses his Force Vision to boost Kyle's focus. He clearly needed all of the heroes that were there to be there.
Genis was holding back. It's stated on panel. They were still destroying planets with their power output. CIS off in the first scenario means Insane-level Genis feats come into play, and he assrapes.
please reread that story. it states in black and white that S1M was tapping the energy in his cells to punch through time (which also caused minor retcons, come to think of it.)
had supes been using a suit's energy, he wouldn't have aged.
so he was amped, in a way.
it took one hit from S1M to down AS supes. imo, that says enough. tack on his TP, and AS wouldn't have a prayer really.
yeah.... reread that story. once S1M cemented the construct, he could have not only contained solaris, but allowed it to burn itself out. granted, his concentration did have to remain on that task until solaris was beaten - however, he didn't 'need' any other help. none.
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Meh, fine. I'll reread the story....sometime.
Genis was fighting some Hourman clone, Timesomethingoranother. And instead of killing Genis, his attack makes him realize what is wrong with this version of his life and the universe, and gets him back to his full power. I wouldn't call it an amp.
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Naw. Post Sunamp AS Supes was pretending to be the unknown Supes from 4500 AD so that his younger self did not see him. Supes was a teenager when he helps bind the Chronovore.
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