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Joker owned Darky [along with the rest of the Quintessence] like feebs - he owned Spectre in the same fashion. Anyhow, nothing Prime or 1M have ever done would indicate to me they'd be immune to Mxy's level of power. Nothing... Regardless of statements/mediocre feats.

You are either immune or not immune. You can't be 95% immune. Then it's not an immunite, its a resistance. For example, we use a Flu shot to become immune(certain period of time) against the Flu. Once we got the shot we wont get the Flu.

Now the only question is if MXy 3rd Dimension magic is different kind of magic. Just like how He is immune to kryptonite, the kryptonite wont damage or weaken him. Why? because he is immune

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Random statements don't prove immunity.

And just because you've been tickled by Black Adam's magical punches and no-sold Mordru's attack doesn't mean you'd be able to laugh at magic attacks from someone at Mxy's level.

It's idiotic to think otherwise.

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Random statements don't prove immunity.

And just because you've been tickled by Black Adam's magical punches and no-sold Mordru's attack doesn't mean you'd be able to laugh at magic attacks from someone at Mxy's level.

It's idiotic to think otherwise.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought Mr.Mxy's "magic" was actually just ridiculously advanced science?

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought Mr.Mxy's "magic" was actually just ridiculously advanced science?

The writers don't seem to make up their minds on this, and end up contradicting themselves most of the times. There are examples such as Day of Vengeance, or Countdown (which ironically, also states that it's advanced science) who seem to point twoards him being magic orientated, while many others define him as using advanced science from the 5th dimension. In the end, magic and the advanced science are vaguely defined, and when trying to oversimplify them it ends up a cluster****, like Day of Vengenace (IMO) was.

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Originally posted by Philosoph�a
Random statements don't prove immunity.

And just because you've been tickled by Black Adam's magical punches and no-sold Mordru's attack doesn't mean you'd be able to laugh at magic attacks from someone at Mxy's level.

It's idiotic to think otherwise.

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Originally posted by Philosoph�a
Random statements don't prove immunity.

And just because you've been tickled by Black Adam's magical punches and no-sold Mordru's attack doesn't mean you'd be able to laugh at magic attacks from someone at Mxy's level.

It's idiotic to think otherwise.

Wow, you will fight to no end. It was stated that he was immune to magic. Unless proven otherwise, he is IMMUNE. Immune means not affected by a given influence. Mxy as of now uses Magic wich is fueld by his willpower. However, no matter what level of magic he has, Superman is still immune to it.

Think of it this away. Superman 1 million is Immune to Kryptonite. Now if I bring a kryptonite that is 10000 times bigger then an average kryptonite, does that make him vulnerabel to kryptonite? OF COURSE NOT. You are being ignorant.

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Wow, you will fight to no end. It was stated that he was immune to magic. Unless proven otherwise, he is IMMUNE. Immune means not affected by a given influence. Mxy as of now uses Magic wich is fueld by his willpower. However, no matter what level of magic he has, Superman is still immune to it.

Think of it this away. Superman 1 million is Immune to Kryptonite. Now if I bring a kryptonite that is 10000 times bigger then an average kryptonite, does that make him vulnerabel to kryptonite. OF COURSE NOT. You are being ignorant.

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Wow, you will fight to no end. It was stated that he was immune to magic. Unless proven otherwise, he is IMMUNE. Immune means not affected by a given influence. Mxy as of now uses Magic wich is fueld by his willpower. However, no matter what level of magic he has, Superman is still immune to it.

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Think of it this away. Superman 1 million is Immune to Kryptonite. Now if I bring a kryptonite that is 10000 times bigger then an average kryptonite, does that make him vulnerabel to kryptonite? OF COURSE NOT. You are being ignorant.

I get stung by one bee, I'm fine. I get stung by ten thousand of them, I die.

... and S1M isn't immune to kryptonite, btw.

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I get stung by one bee, I'm fine. I get stung by ten thousand of them, I die.

... and S1M isn't immune to kryptonite, btw.

Hahah, You are not immune to a bee. Thats why you get a rash. However, you are resistant to Bee which is why you dont die.

Nevertheless, Superman is immune to kryptonite just like he is immmune to magic. Although, you are saying that if he is exposed to higher level of magic he wont be immune any longer. Can't the same "logic" be used on Kryptonite? Of course not because immune means not to be effected. So thats why he wont be affected by MXy magic because he has a immunite against it.

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Nevertheless, Superman is immune to kryptonite just like he is immmune to magic. Although, you are saying that if he is exposed to higher level of magic he wont be immune any longer. Can't the same "logic" be used on Kryptonite? Of course not because immune means not to be effected. So thats why he wont be affected by MXy magic because he has a immunite against it.

It'd help if you actually knew his weaknesses before you try and debate with me about them.

Superman M* is not immune to kryptonite:

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Having said that, Mxy manifests an amalgam of regular, and universe-prime kryptonite, ftw.

That was easy. smile

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It'd help if you actually knew his weaknesses before you try and debate with me about them.

Superman M* is not immune to kryptonite:

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Having said that, Mxy manifests an amalgam of regular, and universe-prime kryptonite, ftw.

That was easy.

Thats stupid!! Superman travels to the 3rd Dimension and defeats Mxy there. That was easy!

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Thats stupid!! Superman travels to the 3rd Dimension and defeats Mxy there. That was easy!

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Yeah thats how your post sounded to me!

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Yeah thats how your post sounded to me!

Sort of like saying that withstanding a punch from BA, and a blast from Mordru = immunity to 'magic' on Mxy's level? lulz.

Lovin' the 'logic' here.

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Sort of like saying that withstanding a punch from BA, and a blast from Mordru = immunity to 'magic' on Mxy's level? lulz.

Lovin' the 'logic' here.

No!! Thats not immune!! Thats resistance. However, as of now, Superman is IMMUNE not resistant. Thats two different meaning.

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Take bluetooth technology to a 3rd world developing country and it would be considered magic.

Magic & Science are simply plot devices in comics.

Prime and 1M aren't immune to magic...just ridiculously resistant to it.

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Take bluetooth technology to a 3rd world developing country and it would be considered magic.

Magic & Science are simply plot devices in comics.

Prime and 1M aren't immune to magic...just ridiculously resistant to it.

Very good point.

From what I have read.
Mr. Mxy's powers are NOT MAGIC!!!!!!!

From our standpoint, we can't comprehend what his powers are, so from the human mind, it must be magic to us.

Mr. Mxy isn't a magician.
He doesn't work at a circus act.

If is from another world, that is able to do things we can't explain.
So like I said, it must be magic to use, because how else can we explain it?

So when people are saying that Superman 1 Million would be immune to it because it's magic.

I don't agree, simply because Mr. Mxy's powers aren't something that we can wrap our mind behind in the first place.

I still do think his powers would effect Superman and who ever else he wanted to effect in our universe.

Simply because we can't comprehend his powers in the first place.

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Very good point.

From what I have read.
Mr. Mxy's powers are NOT MAGIC!!!!!!!

From our standpoint, we can't comprehend what his powers are, so from the human mind, it must be magic to us.

Mr. Mxy isn't a magician.
He doesn't work at a circus act.

If is from another world, that is able to do things we can't explain.
So like I said, it must be magic to use, because how else can we explain it?

So when people are saying that Superman 1 Million would be immune to it because it's magic.

I don't agree, simply because Mr. Mxy's powers aren't something that we can wrap our mind behind in the first place.

I still do think his powers would effect Superman and who ever else he wanted to effect in our universe.

Simply because we can't comprehend his powers in the first place.

No, you are wrong. Mxy power in his realm/dimension is something like science to us. However, once he has crossed to our realm/dimension, his power are magic. They have magic property, so it makes it magic.

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No, you are wrong. Mxy power in his realm/dimension is something like science to us. However, once he has crossed to our realm/dimension, his power are magic. They have magic property, so it makes it magic.

You are correct that in our "HUMAN" assessment, his powers are magic, simply because how else can we explain them?

But just because we believe them to be magic, doesn't mean they are.
Like I said, Mr. Mxy doesn't work in a circus act.

He is from a another dimension that has 100% complete control over our dimension.

As long as superman is in our dimension, he can be controlled and pawn just like everyone else.

For example, The "Classic" beyonder's powers were based things beyond something we can comprehend.

Since he was Beyond anything in all universes, he could control anything he wanted.

Well, even though Mxy isn't as powerful as the Original Beyonder.
He still has 100% complete control in our dimension.

Superman isn't a God, in our dimension, Mr. Mxy is.

I don't care what you say, Mr. Mxy wins this hands down.

Why???

It's simple, in our dimension, he can do whatever he wants, VS a guy that can't do what ever he wants.

Superman has no ability to create things out of thin air, change physics, alter reality, and other sutff that Mr. Mxy can do.

Superman is a speed punch guy, that's it.

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