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Originally posted by h1a8
I know that being koed by vision contradicts CN taking Thor best shots without flinching. Comics contradict.

I believe Thor blows are more physically devastating than any of Thanos' physical blows.

This fight is a matter of writer's opinion.
Yet you still felt the need to bring up Vision KO'ing him in the other thread?
Probably because it was Superman... nevermind.

Can you show me some scans? Either way, he was hurt by a hammer throw and a punch from Thor... He did stop a hammer attack, but that's not going to help against Thanos.

Also, this might interest you (MORTAL KOMBAT)...

Thanos punches him into the fetal position, whether Count likes it or not. He can't stop Thanos (as Thanos is stronger than him, and way too durable), and even if a couple don't hurt, Thanos isn't going to stop. He spams the combo.


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Originally posted by Mekrob
Yet you still felt the need to bring up Vision KO'ing him in the other thread?
Probably because it was Superman... nevermind.

Can you show me some scans? Either way, he was hurt by a hammer throw and a punch from Thor... He did stop a hammer attack, but that's not going to help against Thanos.

Also, this might interest you (MORTAL KOMBAT)...

Thanos punches him into the fetal position, whether Count likes it or not. He can't stop Thanos (as Thanos is stronger than him, and way too durable), and even if a couple don't hurt, Thanos isn't going to stop. He spams the combo.


Ha Ha laughing
You caught me! I'm truly bias for Superman.

But honestly (bias aside), from all the CN appearances I seen I can't say, without any doubt, that Thanos can hurt CN. CN is clearly more durable than Thor.

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Did you miss where Thor hurt him with his fist?

And Thanos would destroy Thor in a h2h fight... don't see how being more anything than Thor means anything...


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Originally posted by Mekrob
Did you miss where Thor hurt him with his fist?

And Thanos would destroy Thor in a h2h fight... don't see how being more anything than Thor means anything...


I agree with you.
I just don't see Thanos hurting CN especially knowing that Thor is far less durable and that Thor was able to take some good shots from Thanos for awhile.

Taking Mjolnir without flinching has got to mean something right?

(It means nothing if were talking about Superman though laughing )

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I agree with you.
I just don't see Thanos hurting CN especially knowing that Thor is far less durable and that Thor was able to take some good shots from Thanos for awhile.

Taking Mjolnir without flinching has got to mean something right?

(It means nothing if were talking about Superman though laughing )
You pretty much ignored everything I said...

When did he take good shots from Thanos? WM Thor? The one who had a massive durability and strength increase?

When did he take Mjolnir without flinching?

Either way, he doesn't have to hurt him in one shot; he combos him. Speed kills amirite???


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Originally posted by Mekrob
You pretty much ignored everything I said...

When did he take good shots from Thanos? WM Thor? The one who had a massive durability and strength increase?

When did he take Mjolnir without flinching?

Either way, he doesn't have to hurt him in one shot; he combos him. Speed kills amirite???


WM may be stronger but I believe WM Thor has the same durability as regular Thor until proven otherwise. CN took Mjolnir without flinching at least twice in comics (I saw only two occurrences though).

If Thanos can effect CN then clearly he wins this 10/10. I just have a hard time of believing it.

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WM may be stronger but I believe WM Thor has the same durability as regular Thor until proven otherwise. CN took Mjolnir without flinching at least twice in comics (I saw only two occurrences though).

If Thanos can effect CN then clearly he wins this 10/10. I just have a hard time of believing it.
Can't find a scan, so I'll just show comparisons.
Champion with the Power Gem took multiple shots from Thanos (both punches and blasts). Without the Gem, he got beat in two shots by Surfer, and was KO'ed by She-Hulk.
If it only increased the strength, then how does anyone with the IG take blasts from pretty much every abstract? Etc.
When did he take two hammer shots without flinching?

OK... you ignored that Thor hurt him with his fist after I said it... twice.


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Originally posted by Mekrob
Can't find a scan, so I'll just show comparisons.
Champion with the Power Gem took multiple shots from Thanos (both punches and blasts). Without the Gem, he got beat in two shots by Surfer, and was KO'ed by She-Hulk.
If it only increased the strength, then how does anyone with the IG take blasts from pretty much every abstract? Etc.
When did he take two hammer shots without flinching?

OK... you ignored that Thor hurt him with his fist after I said it... twice.


Superman took a nuclear bomb with no problem yet almost got koed by a gas station. This proves that comics are inconsistent and not that the PG grants more durability.

The space and reality gem (especially the space one) grants user durability and not the power gem.

The two times I've seen him take Thor's hammer was:
In I think his first battle with Thor (its in CN's respect thread) and against the avengers when his daughter used an ionic weapon against him (i'll look up the issue later as I have to find it in my storage stuff).

I don't remember Thor ever hurting CN with his fist. You have any scans of this?

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Thanos and very easily

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Originally posted by h1a8
WM may be stronger but I believe WM Thor has the same durability as regular Thor until proven otherwise. CN took Mjolnir without flinching at least twice in comics (I saw only two occurrences though).

If Thanos can effect CN then clearly he wins this 10/10. I just have a hard time of believing it.
He had the power gem which massively increased his durability. No one could ko Thor in this arc due to the power gem.


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Thanos wins


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The space and reality gem (especially the space one) grants user durability and not the power gem.


How did you work out that one?

The Space Gem lets you teleport. Nothing to do with durability.


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Originally posted by h1a8
Superman took a nuclear bomb with no problem yet almost got koed by a gas station. This proves that comics are inconsistent and not that the PG grants more durability.

The space and reality gem (especially the space one) grants user durability and not the power gem.

The two times I've seen him take Thor's hammer was:
In I think his first battle with Thor (its in CN's respect thread) and against the avengers when his daughter used an ionic weapon against him (i'll look up the issue later as I have to find it in my storage stuff).

I don't remember Thor ever hurting CN with his fist. You have any scans of this?
The problem is that basically all of Champ's good showings come from when he had the Power Gem.

wut
The Reality Gem controls reality, and the Space Gem alone grants you the ability to teleport, and be anywhere and everywhere... how did you even come close to equating this to increasing your durability?

Was Thor even in the second one you mentioned?

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He had the power gem which massively increased his durability. No one could ko Thor in this arc due to the power gem.


Prove that the power gem increases one's durability.

Are you saying that Thanos will easily beat Thor to a pulp in a few hits in h2h?

Or are you saying that Thanos can ko regular Thor (no WM and PG) with at most 2 hits?

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How did you work out that one?

The Space Gem lets you teleport. Nothing to do with durability.


The space gem can cause you to create barriers around yourself for protection (even skin tight ones) or become intangible.

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The problem is that basically all of Champ's good showings come from when he had the Power Gem.

wut
The Reality Gem controls reality, and the Space Gem alone grants you the ability to teleport, and be anywhere and everywhere... how did you even come close to equating this to increasing your durability?

Was Thor even in the second one you mentioned?

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/...ers16602eu1.jpg


That's not the ones I saw. CN power level fluctuates depending on who he is absorbing. He had to be weak there. I saw a scan here some years ago showing him taking Thor's hammer without flinching (I will try to find it for you in his respect page). The other scan is when CN fought the entire avengers where he was absorbing both Wonder Man and Atlas (I think). Thor's hammer bounced off him like bullets bounce off Superman. His daughter (with an golden mechanical mask) used an anti-ionic gun on him.

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Whoa whoa. The space gem grants durability? Thats a good one.


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The space gem can cause you to create barriers around yourself for protection (even skin tight ones) or become intangible.
Where was this ever stated in comics?

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That's not the ones I saw. CN power level fluctuates depending on who he is absorbing. He had to be weak there. I saw a scan here some years ago showing him taking Thor's hammer without flinching (I will try to find it for you in his respect page). The other scan is when CN fought the entire avengers where he was absorbing both Wonder Man and Atlas (I think). Thor's hammer bounced off him like bullets bounce off Superman. His daughter (with an golden mechanical mask) used an anti-ionic gun on him.
It probably isn't... seeing as how I can't find any scans that you're talking about.

He lifted up a building a couple pages later, and fought the entire Avengers... ya, he was probably pretty weak...

I don't even think Thor appeared in the issues where Nefaria became ionic form.


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Theoretically, by warping or compressing space, such things would be possible with the gem, BUT NO ONE HAS EVER THOUGHT OF THAT IN MARVEL OR DEMONSTRATED THE CONTROL. And it might only be possible with the full IG anyways.

Basically, "Scans or it didn't happen."


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Also, this might interest you (MORTAL KOMBAT)...


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