1. Soul Reaver is weak in comparison to mortal Pyron. And slashing his eye? Lol.
2. So he ran away. K.
3. Demitri who happens to have the necessary powerset to defeat Pyron? So he can die in sunlight. So what? That is completely irrelevant to defeating Pyron, and only cements you as an idiot.
The top-ranked Darkstalkers are not merely physical beings.
Jedah has soul devouring abilities above that of Kain's, and a healing factor that is rivaled by few.
Belial possessed reality altering powers.
Demitri possessed just the necessary tool to beat Mortal Pyron, powerful energy absorption which after fighting him allowed him to absorb him(and by Demitri's own admission it was a difficult fight).
1. In what exactley? in hows much it can physically bustszor!?
2. Did Demitri wipe his mouth with a tissue to rid it of residue cosmic super energies after swallowing up your cosmic physical godsor!?
3. And so what if the reaver can defeat the Elder God? so what if the Elder God is defeated? and actually it is quite amusing, hes a lower evolution of Vampire by LOk standards.....and what powerset exactley? for all you know any of the vampires could have done it or higher tiers, if they dont just rip out his soul like Kain does in this battle.
Soul powers, Kain has them, goodie....
Belial who like an idiot started to drain of power because he blasted a section of his body away....lol..
Was it actually stated that only Demitri had energy absorbtion of this level or is it assumed?
1. It's damage output has not shown to be as much as Pyron's, if it cut Elder God, Pyron would blow him to pieces in a punch.
2. You're an idiot.
3. It shows Elder God is a weakling. Lower evolution by LOK standards? Completely irrelevant to a fight considering he can shield himself from the sun and is more powerful than any LoK vampire. Powerset? His absorption abilities. There is only one vampire stronger than Demitri, and that is Jedah. And Kain can't rip out souls without cutting them with the Reaver, which won't happen, he is too slow.
Tell me, what stops Pyron from rushing Kain, ripping off his arms, and taking the Reaver to orbit, leaving Kain an armless, weaponless vampire?
Pyron actually loosed to Demitri purposely. He could have won but instead opted out to lose wit honor. And in all honesty...he might not be dead, just inside Demitri. He is stated numerous times to be virtually immortal.
Don't know if peeps realize this or not, but the guy is an honorable fighter. Who isn't that much of a bad guy.
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Well first, hes not given this power it seems by your words in any canon, what other higher class vampires has Pyron faced? I mean your the one sitting here guessing it was a specific ability.....
point is that Pyron can be defeated quite handily, none of his superz powers stopped Demitri, I mean what are Dmitris speed feats? or Demitris physical feats? I remember seeing him not even being able to break the tiles off a typical roof in one of your anime videos....
1. Pyron wouldnt see or hit anything.....and what do you mean damage output? it has various frequencies of power impacing both soul and purity after the purification by Ariel.....theres more than just physical might unfortunatley for you....
2. Yeh and Id have a better debate and more challenging argument coming from a hunk of concrete..
3. More powerful? by what? ive seen no feats at all.....and it shows Elder God is a weakling for those who think big physical powerz are all that counts, soul powers and other elements of the reaver also come into comparison. not true, Kain as shown in Blood omen has Soul rip AND spirit wrack, long range soul ripping powers.
The fact that hes not shown to be as quick, it didnt help him do that against Demitri when Demitri sucked him up did it......no it did not.....ive not seen speed feats from Demitri either. Whats stopping Kain from just tossing up his Repel shield and trapping Pyron in time stasis? nothing.....Pyron has no resistance to any of those.
2. He sent Demitri and Pyron's castle which is huge through dimensions.
3. What are you talking about? You are the one assuming other vampires who are weaker than Demitri have done the same. YOU are assuming. I am not, I know for a fact Demitri has those powers, we do not know if other vampires have them on the same level, and they probably don't, you know, because they are inferior and have never shown it. Only Demitri and Jedah have shown energy absorption.
How would that happen? None of his super powers stopped Demitri? Are we using A>B>C logic now? And obviously he is fast and strong enough to fight Pyron, why would Pyron's feats be invalidated because Demitri beat him? And Demitri is physically on par with Pyron, who is so so so much stronger than Donavan, who kept a cliff from falling with one hand while having his heart impaled by a blood and soul draining sword.
Typical roof? Demitri's entire castle has a barrier protecting it for one.
And for another, when the hell did Demitri attack his roof?
1. Done so many times, Kain himself tells us he does...
2. Show me please, and that does not sound like reality warping at all, thats just transportation...its like teleportation only your teleporting another entity/object.....
3. No your assuming he has a power vampires dont have, just because Pyron has not been absorbed by said vampires ,although iven ot seen Pyron face other higher class vampires. until theres evidence of Demitri having a unique power that allows him to do this, then you cant assume he was only capable of tacking out Pyron because of that power set.
Obviously he is fast enough to fight Pyron? or maybe speed mattered little......are you assuming? ofcourse you are....
He attacked a roof in your old anime with the slipknot music playing...or Pyron did, someones attack hit a roof.
1. And has to cut to do those things. Which shows Elder God can be cut by it.
2. Debate? I'm not having a debate with you BT, a debate would be that we both bring forth points backed up by logic and evidence. Your arguments are backed up by idiocy, bias, and pure bullshit.
3. Strength, speed, power. Elder God is a giant squid who happens to be able to control the souls of the dead. Big whoop. All he can do in terms of combat is tentacle attack. Show me the final statement. Because I call bullshit.
4. I have shown you him circling the planet. And obviously Demitri could handle Pyron's speed, what the hell makes you think Kain can just because Demitri can?
Repel shield? The fact that it has not taken a punch with the force of a nuclear missile. How about that?
Time attacks are too slow for Pyron, and even with Pyron slowed down he will be faster than Kain.
It's like a cowboy killin' almost erbody on the planet leavin' only Japan. Then says "Y'all use Katanas, what are those? I'll fight on your level." Put away his gun and challenges the best samurai in the world to a sword fight and gives him the challenge of his life but eventually looses. How is this bad for Pyron?
And Demetri has no speed feats? The guys forward dash makes him vanish and appear behind you or in front of you and he teleport.
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2. He hit him with an attack which ripped reality open. He did not teleport him, and I have shown you this already, look up the fvcking respect thread, I am not getting it again.
3. But we must assume they DO have it, right!? That is a baseless assumption, and it is actually a use of the Equivocation fallacy, shut the fvck up. And why are you continuing to argue this? What does it matter if Demitri can tackle Pyron, that doesn't prove Kain can.
4. Speed mattered little? So they stood in one place? You're picking at straws to try to weasel your way out of the fact that Kain cannot handle Pyron's speed, fact is, Kain CAN'T.
5. No he didn't, and Pyron shoot a small blast which knocked Demitri back that was over the roof, he did not attack the roof directly. And then we see that Pyron was able to send Demitri directly through the castle itself, sending it crashing to the ground.
1. But we dont know the durability of the Elder God, nor do we know the overall cutting power of the blade, we dont even know the comparison that the soul powers of the sword have on a spectoral entity, since it was hinted only the sword can harm the Elder God anyway......
2. flip that and it would be more truthful and what shit you talking now? youve provided no evidence at all, stop blowing out hot air child....
3. Giant squid? He resembles nothing of a giant squid, all he has is tentacles, a lot of beings have tentacles.....he looks more like one of thos huge Elder Gods from the Cthulu series or however you spell it....and false, he fires energy from his eyes....which are millions...as are his tentacles of varying sizes....and Kain defeated the Elder God, a continent sized being of spectorla power. And what final statement?
4. Obviously? how so? its neither stated nor hinted speed was a factor Demitri had, and no, ime implying perhaps speed is not whats important, regardless of what is important...speed is not hinted to for Dimitri is it? youve not shown evidence of it...
Repel shield is empowered by kains infnite magic regulation....I dont hae to describe
Same here as to the above, he will just regulate the magic to increase the range, speed and area of the time bolt to smother Pyron quicker than he can say "TGE is pwned"
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Apr 9th, 2009 10:37 AM
That is a baseless assumption, and it is actually a use of the Equivocation fallacy, shut the fvck up. And why are you continuing to argue this? What does it matter if Demitri can tackle Pyron, that doesn't prove Kain can.
