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Enyalus
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Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Champ will never land the blow. DS will dodge for abit either by speed or by flying, and he will spot the gem.

DS is a frigging god. And a tactical genius. It's pathetically easy to see a scenario where he figures out that the gem is amping champion or important, and he then disarms champion of his powerup.

Prove the Gem can be removed from Champion by anyone but Champion and you'd have a case.

It's been stated on panel that the Gems are drawn to the Elders, and the Power Gem in particular to Champion himself. They fit together well, and its never been taken off by anyone but Tryco himself.

May 13th, 2009 03:34 AM

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So you deny the possibility that DS can take the gem? Proof that he can't remove it, other than speculation?

Because I've seen Thanos remove gems from elders before after beating them.

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Enyalus
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So you deny the possibility that DS can take the gem? Proof that he can't remove it, other than speculation?

Why'm I going to prove a negative? It was your assertion.

Also, when Thanos was fighting him, the only reason he knew it amped him was because he looked into the Infinity Well for the knowledge. Even Champion thought it was only a useless bauble and only kept it for good luck. DS wouldn't pick up on the fact it amped him.

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Because I've seen Thanos remove gems from elders before after beating them.

Yeah. After they're unconscious.

Tell me Darkseid beats him unconscious H2H, then takes the Gem, and we have no problems.

May 13th, 2009 03:48 AM

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drax had his gem removed only because he had it in his stomach, the gems seem to be hard to remove when positioned on the brow (for reasons unknown)

actually, it may be from the symbiotic relationship between gem and user. (soul gem's consciousness wanting warlock to consume souls)

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*NO GEM STEALING ALLOWED.*

This is purely a h2h contest.

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WHAT?! What kind of BS is that? thumb down

Without the ability to steal the gem, DS can't win. The gen will make champion invulnerable theoretically, and his strength will just keep growing.

Regarding the gems, Strange jacked moondragon's while she was blasting him. Warlock's soul gem has been nabbed from him. You have a single statement of the gems being drawn to the elders, and I have several instances of the gems being taken from others.

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DS can't win. The gen will make champion invulnerable theoretically, and his strength will just keep growing.

I agree!

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The Champion WITH the Gem did not display any kind of skill, and just pure strength. The one who fouht in the contest displayed "skill" but his physical condition was far from Darkseid's level.

He got ****ing trashed by She Hulk :/

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Champion w/pg take it

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*NO GEM STEALING ALLOWED.*

This is purely a h2h contest.

Well can't DS knock the gem out/off?

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Champion with the greatest of ease. DS can do nothing to champion to put him down or stand up to his blows. This is spite.

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Well can't DS knock the gem out/off?

No.

It's never happened and can't be proven that it could be. If it were possible, don't you think Dr. Strange, who removed Moondragon's gem, would have done so against PG amped Thor?

May 13th, 2009 04:00 PM

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No.

It's never happened and can't be proven that it could be. If it were possible, don't you think Dr. Strange, who removed Moondragon's gem, would have done so against PG amped Thor?

I mean if he can take it out himself then why wouldn't someone else be able to do so.

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I mean if he can take it out himself then why wouldn't someone else be able to do so.

Because he consciously made a decision to do it. The gems are especially drawn to the Elders that wear them. They share a unique bond because the Power Primordial is part of the Gem's power. CHampion liked fighting, etc, so the Power Gem was automatically drawn to him. Runner liked freedom and not being tied down to anything, so he got the Space Gem, etc.

May 13th, 2009 04:12 PM

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Originally posted by Enyalus
No.

It's never happened and can't be proven that it could be. If it were possible, don't you think Dr. Strange, who removed Moondragon's gem, would have done so against PG amped Thor?

That is a bullshit example and you know it. The Watch was epically jobbing. Dr. ****ing Strange can't stop Thor? thumb down

Knowsbleed: The OP has apparently added a retroactive clause that DS cannot remove the gem or steal it. roll eyes (sarcastic)

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Originally posted by TricksterPriest
That is a bullshit example and you know it. The Watch was epically jobbing. Dr. ****ing Strange can't stop Thor?

Knowsbleed: The OP has apparently added a retroactive clause that DS cannot remove the gem or steal it.

Because its a contest of who is superior at strenght, speed, h2h.. etc

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May 13th, 2009 08:33 PM

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That is a bullshit example and you know it. The Watch was epically jobbing. Dr. ****ing Strange can't stop Thor?

Knowsbleed: The OP has apparently added a retroactive clause that DS cannot remove the gem or steal it.

Wait did you just call me Knowsbleed lol?

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Darkseid wins, hes physically stronger and is a great fighter himself

Champion disqualified most of Earths heroes for various reasons
Thor using a weapon
Hulk fighting with pure rage

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Wait did you just call me Knowsbleed lol?

Sorry about that. Just woke up not that long ago.

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Darkseid wins, hes physically stronger and is a great fighter himself

Champion disqualified most of Earths heroes for various reasons
Thor using a weapon
Hulk fighting with pure rage

Another good point. Champion is a hypocrite. And he's not that intelligent especially with the gem.

As for DS winning......he can't take the gem. and it's definitely argueable that Champion can tank just H2H blows, even with DS's speed and skill edge.

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