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You dont get it. He can still have his healing factor but he needs feats inwhich he takes on top tier guys with out needing it. Wolverine has shown that he can take it to top tier fighters with out resorting to his healing factor, something DP has not shown.
alright fine il replace DP with wolverine no healing factor and no adamantium skeleton. will that make it fair ?


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Yes assuming each individual has time to get uses to the change and wolverine cant uses his claws, then it be a pretty closes fight.

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Yes assuming each individual has time to get uses to the change and wolverine cant uses his claws, then it be a pretty closes fight.
no adamantium skeleton = no claws as well


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no adamantium skeleton = no claws as well

No it does not, he has bone claws.

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His claws are in his gloves dummy, duh!


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What is a class 10 fighter?


Lyoto Machida

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What is a class 10 fighter?
RYU


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Lyoto Machida
Greg Jackson says he has holes!


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With the original stipulations, team 1 for the heavy majority.
Elektra does well, but her craptastic partner screws her over.


With Wolverine replacing DP, I think team 2 would win 7-8/10.


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With the original stipulations, team 1 for the heavy majority.
Elektra does well, but her craptastic partner screws her over.


I'm willing to bet you don't actually know that much about Deadpool's hth skills.


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I'm willing to bet you don't actually know that much about Deadpool's hth skills.


*shrug*
I know in most of his fights he relies heavily on his HF.


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Are you sure about that?


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Are you sure about that?


Do you really care about my opinion?


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No, not at all.


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No, not at all.


I'll just leave it at that.


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Team 1 for a healthy majority, imo.

using the stips on page 1, anyways.


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You dont get it. He can still have his healing factor but he needs feats inwhich he takes on top tier guys with out needing it. Wolverine has shown that he can take it to top tier fighters with out resorting to his healing factor, something DP has not shown.

How about Bullseye? Taskmaster? He kicked their asses. Several times and not thanks to his hf but because of his fighting skills. Stalemated Iron Fist twice. Has impressive h2h showings against Wolverine. I dont care what he's rated by Marvel, he's easilly on the same level as the rest fighters in this thread. The reason he so often relies on his hf to win the fights is because its funnier that way. The guy's crazy, he'd let you stab him just to tell a joke about it.


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How about Bullseye? Taskmaster? He kicked their asses. Several times and not thanks to his hf but because of his fighting skills. Stalemated Iron Fist twice. Has impressive h2h showings against Wolverine. I dont care what he's rated by Marvel, he's easilly on the same level as the rest fighters in this thread. The reason he so often relies on his hf to win the fights is because its funnier that way. The guy's crazy, he'd let you stab him just to tell a joke about it.

what bulleye fight have you been reading.......becuase he had his throat slit by a straw in one, and he msot certainly needed his healing factor then, and in another he got shot through the head with an arrow........and the other time he had to resort to using a meat shield and bulleye job crazxy........not that bulleye a top tier to begin with.


Taskmaster? he been stabbed in almost every single on of there fights........

stalemated IF? he got kneed in the face, if he did not have a healing factor he would have been dropped........

wolverine? They had only one h2h fight, and deadpool used a knife and still was a the losing end. As for melee encounters wolverien almost every time is on the winning end, the only reason DP even take shim on is that wolverine either missing a healing factor, or deadpool has one sided prep and has weapons designed to take wolverine out.

dont make excuses. Wolverine relies on his healing a lot, but has has legitment feats to place him in top tier DP miost certainly does not.

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what bulleye fight have you been reading.......becuase he had his throat slit by a straw in one, and he msot certainly needed his healing factor then, and in another he got shot through the head with an arrow........and the other time he had to resort to using a meat shield and bulleye job crazxy........not that bulleye a top tier to begin with.
Yeah Wade got shot by an arrow because he understimated Bullseye, but we're talking about fighting skills here, and before that arrow Deadpool was completely beating the crap outta Bullseye, hell in the next issue Bullseye couldnt last against Wade in h2h for few seconds, it was a onesided beating, Bullseye had to kick Wade in the nuts and run away to survive the fight.

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Taskmaster? he been stabbed in almost every single on of there]


He got stabbed when his hands and legs were cuffed together. In their first fight Taskmaster almost cried. Yes Wade got injured at first, Taskmaster's been monitoring him for like an hour before the fight, but once Wade realised he's facing a dangerous oponent he completely owned him in a fight and he didn't need his hf to do that. Hell even Agent X kicked Taskmaster's ass because he got Wade's fighting skills.
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stalemated IF? he got kneed in the face, if he did not have a healing factor he would have been dropped........
What the f**k? based on what? He duct taped an I-POD to IF's back during the fight, if he wanted to kill him that could've been a bomb or even a knife. He fought IF twice and it always was close with both landing the same amount of hits.

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wolverine? They had only one h2h fight, and deadpool used a knife and still was a the losing end. As for melee encounters wolverien almost every time is on the winning end, the only reason DP even take shim on is that wolverine either missing a healing factor, or deadpool has one sided prep and has weapons designed to take wolverine out.
ok now that is just false. Wolverine only really beat Deadpool ONCE, and Deadpool just had his head reattached at the time, barely got any time to heal so that's far from a fair fight. And DP fought Wolverine h2h more than once. Once in origin, when Wade stopped trying to get Logan in his traps they both prepared for a h2h fight, they each landed two hits, then DP stopped fighting and started telling some stopping joke to win some time before the bomb got activated. In that fight you were talking about Deadpool did have a knife but he DIDN'T USE it even though he had the chance. Also there was another fight in the next issue with Deadpool landing 3 hits in a raw without getting hit once before getting interrupted. And as for non h2h fights when DP fought boneclaw Wolverine he didn't have the prep and didn't have any special weapons and Logan was far from a winning end in that fight.

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dont make excuses. Wolverine relies on his healing a lot, but has has legitment feats to place him in top tier DP miost certainly does not.
He most certanly does, im not making excuses, it is you simply ignoring facts for some reasons. hf or not DP on many occasions proved that he's on the same level as anyone else in this thread. Stop trying to use his hf factor to prove a point, the fact that he gets injured often doesnt mean anything. Wolverine without the hf would've been dead a long time ago but that doesn't mean we should downplay his fighting skills, same with DP.


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While what Sam said is pretty much true, Batman's still better. And without his HF or weapons, he and Elektra don't take this.

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