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Your point being?


Probably that if you get bloodied by chains, then it doesn't matter what Wolverine used to win the fight, because Omega Red's durability is already so awful that Colossus would take him out.


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Omega Red is the real problem.

How fast would his Life Drain affect Colossus? In their latest fight it took effect pretty quickly, but they had Colossus bleeding in that issue so I'm taking it with a grain of salt. His Death Factor is also deadly, but it can be resisted can it not?

If they can take out Omega Red, they would win. Personally the smartest match up for Team 1 would be Wolverine going for Omega Red, and Colossus going after Daken.


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I'm trying to understand how this can actually affect. He's supposed to be impervious to any kind of attack like that. Maybe Exiles Mimic has confused me.


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What do you mean? What type of attack effect who?


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What do you mean? What type of attack effect who?


Attacks tied to biology, poison and the like shouldn't have an effect on Colossus, since he is essentially metal. Though he has proved to be practically immune to any kind of sensory affliction, life-force attack seems to work on him


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Well it does give you something to thing about.

Is the Life Drain a mystical attack? Does it train, the Life Force/Soul etc. or is a biological attack? I'm betting it's the latter(Should ask Battlehammer. He'd know for sure.). Since Colossus transforms, to metal through and through, he doesn't have tissue, or even organs really. That should probably put a kink in biological based attacks as what's their to really drain, attack? It should be as useful as trying to drain the Life out of animated paper. But, meh, it's comics.....


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Probably that if you get bloodied by chains, then it doesn't matter what Wolverine used to win the fight, because Omega Red's durability is already so awful that Colossus would take him out.

Since when running away from your opponent and losing your consciousness after short distance is called "winning the fight"? It is loss via self-BFR.
OR wasn' even knocked out. Just pissed a lot. So, IMO you have no point there.

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Since when running away from your opponent and losing your consciousness after short distance is called "winning the fight"? It is loss via self-BFR.
OR wasn' even knocked out. Just pissed a lot. So, IMO you have no point there.


No? No points?

Because anyone with half a brain would've noticed that I'm not really trying to argument that Wolverine wins. As you no doubt missed, we were talking about Colossus! And like I've already said, it doesn't matter how Wolverine won or even if he won at all! Because Omega Red was actually bloodied by chains and took a lot of damage from being thrown into those bars.

Now, in most people's books, someone who gets bloodied by chains would have a hard time taking punches from Colossus.


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Daken has a good chance at solo'ing this.


What the f**k?

Do you know something I don't?


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Team 1 win


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Now, in most people's books, someone who gets bloodied by chains would have a hard time taking punches from Colossus

Except you'd probably read that occasion when Arkady had no troubles at all with Colossus's punches. And he was weaker then.
Resistance to bludgeoning and piercing damage are 2 different kind of things. And there is also healing factor. Rulk can take punches from Hulk and Thor - and Tigra's claws or Punisher's knife blood him just fine.

I can't resist the urge to say you have no point here yet again.

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That Red vs Colossus fight is just crap writing.


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Except you'd probably read that occasion when Arkady had no troubles at all with Colossus's punches. And he was weaker then.
Resistance to bludgeoning and piercing damage are 2 different kind of things. And there is also healing factor. Rulk can take punches from Hulk and Thor - and Tigra's claws or Punisher's knife blood him just fine.

I can't resist the urge to say you have no point here yet again.
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Except you'd probably read that occasion when Arkady had no troubles at all with Colossus's punches. And he was weaker then.
Resistance to bludgeoning and piercing damage are 2 different kind of things. And there is also healing factor. Rulk can take punches from Hulk and Thor - and Tigra's claws or Punisher's knife blood him just fine.

I can't resist the urge to say you have no point here yet again.


The occasion when Colossus was like a class 50, in the 90s? Around the time Chamber beat the **** outta Omega Red? I'm just wondering how this life-force thing can work on a metal man. I'm guessing logic isn't your strong suit. And seeing as Wolverine threw Red INTO prison bars, which would be bludgeoning and not piercing, Colossus' punches would mess him up.


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Didn't Omega Red also fight Colossus, Wolverine and Nightcrawler in Brubakers Divided We Stand Uncanny X-Men Arc? IRRC Red made Colossus bleed.


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Peak Versions? Omega Red ftw

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I don't have my issues in front of me, and it's been a while since I read it so I don't remember all the details but this issue:

http://www.wizarduniverse.com/062008uncx.html


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Didn't Omega Red also fight Colossus, Wolverine and Nightcrawler in Brubakers Divided We Stand Uncanny X-Men Arc? IRRC Red made Colossus bleed.


That's the fight I was referring to about the death spores affecting Colossus. Somehow Omega Red was able to dig his hands into Colossus' skin, and he bled :/

Highly dubious.


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That's the fight I was referring to about the death spores affecting Colossus. Somehow Omega Red was able to dig his hands into Colossus' skin, and he bled :/

Highly dubious.


Ah I see, when I first read it I thought it was some sort of energy. stick out tongue

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fastball special anyone

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