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SoulDevourer
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btw some1 here said Vertigo aint canon so that dont count anyway

Nov 17th, 2009 05:32 PM

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No! Vertigo is canon.

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I don't recall Vertigo being part of 52.. Wildstorm definitely is, but not sure about Vertigo.

Perhaps, Vertigo is canon as a separate universe from DCU?

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Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
I don't recall Vertigo being part of 52.. Wildstorm definitely is, but not sure about Vertigo.

Perhaps, Vertigo is canon as a separate universe from DCU?

Too bad, it is big grin

I'll try to get proof

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AsbestosFlaygon
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If that is true, then DC has messed up the hierarchy even further than we know.

I mean, Elaine is supreme in Vertigo.. then we have The Presence in the main DCU.. then PM comes along, who seems to be the DC version of PR Beyonder.

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Reading Superman Beyond more thoughts been given to who the Monkey was who wrote the Book of the Infinite, It seems to be God who took that form and wrote it.. Pretty sure we all know Mandrakk is Mammon the Lord of Greed. Ultraman is owned at the end when Mandrakk Ogama turned him into a vampire and steals his thoughts and reads the Book of the Infinite. Mandrakk in FC believes he gets to win but the ending must have changed or they both misinterpreted it. This would keep the hierarchy the same as it has always been.

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Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
If that is true, then DC has messed up the hierarchy even further than we know.

I mean, Elaine is supreme in Vertigo.. then we have The Presence in the main DCU.. then PM comes along, who seems to be the DC version of PR Beyonder.

Elaine is actually a vessel of the Presence

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Elaine is actually a vessel of the Presence

Hmmm...
Never thought of that, since I used to believe that Vertigoverse is a separate reality from DCU.

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MoM with ease.

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If things are retconned this way, then not even the fully backed Specter would hold a candle against the LT : |

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the presence and the primal monitor are both omnipotent in the truest sense of the word. thus i can see how one might be inclined to refer to them as equals, if that person were speaking purely from a "power wise" standpoint.

however, they are not "=" in any other way(s). juntai was spot on with his argument.

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Originally posted by Galan007
the presence and the primal monitor are both omnipotent in the truest sense of the word. thus i can see how one might be inclined to refer to them as equals, if that person were speaking purely from a "power wise" standpoint.

however, they are not "=" in any other way(s). juntai was spot on with his argument.

Are we saying the Primal Monitor is omnipotent because he considers the event of creation minimal? I don't see why we should.

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Are we saying the Primal Monitor is omnipotent because he considers the event of creation minimal? I don't see why we should.

i'm saying the PM is truly omnipotent, because even the other 'omnipotent' powers of the DCU [ie. mxy, mandrakk, spectre, the cosmic armor, worlogog, genesis box, anti-monitor.... the entire DC creation] are nothing but germs in comparison.

imo, calling the PM anything less than omnipotent, when it views powers on THAT level as "germs" is a tinge on the ludicrous side.

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Originally posted by Galan007
i'm saying the PM is truly omnipotent, because even the other 'omnipotent' powers of the DCU [ie. mxy, mandrakk, spectre, the cosmic armor, worlogog, genesis box, anti-monitor.... the entire DC creation] are nothing but germs in comparison.

imo, calling the PM anything less than omnipotent, when it views powers on THAT level as "germs" is a tinge on the ludicrous side.

What is your view on the monkey (God?) who wrote the Infinite Book. He is the one who is telling the story. Whats your view of them?

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Originally posted by Galan007
i'm saying the PM is truly omnipotent, because even the other 'omnipotent' powers of the DCU [ie. mxy, mandrakk, spectre, the cosmic armor, worlogog, genesis box, anti-monitor.... the entire DC creation] are nothing but germs in comparison.

imo, calling the PM anything less than omnipotent, when it views powers on THAT level as "germs" is a tinge on the ludicrous side.

who wins my friend

Nov 17th, 2009 08:17 PM

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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Galan007
i'm saying the PM is truly omnipotent, because even the other 'omnipotent' powers of the DCU [ie. mxy, mandrakk, spectre, the cosmic armor, worlogog, genesis box, anti-monitor.... the entire DC creation] are nothing but germs in comparison.

imo, calling the PM anything less than omnipotent, when it views powers on THAT level as "germs" is a tinge on the ludicrous side.

i'd disagree with that last point. it could simply be seen as being equally ludicrous to call those 'other powers' "omnipotents" in the first place. erm

there will always be a bigger, more powerful threat out there.

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Mandrakk vs a Supreme being.

The Supreme being.

Doesn't matter how great Mandrakk was or how little the multiverse is to him. The writer -always- wins.

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Gotta agree with Leonidas here.

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Originally posted by kevdude
What is your view on the monkey (God?) who wrote the Infinite Book. He is the one who is telling the story. Whats your view of them?

no one literally wrote the infinite book, it's more-so a compilation of... everything. an "encyclopedia universal" as it were. though i can imagine the "monkey" who was responsible for compiling it could certainly be viewed as god, but who really knows?

however, the book itself does have detailed accounts of anything/everything imaginable [even the 'story' (if it can be called that) of the primal monitor itself.] that said, i personally view it as something akin to destiny's book, but probably even >, because it tells a story from a 'pre-creation' point of view [which the book of destiny does not.]

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