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Rage.Of.Olympus
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Originally posted by Xplosive
MM is much more powerful than Thor and SS that he doesn't need to be at originals levels to defeat those two.


He doesn't have to be to defeat them, but the gap between him and the two has to be large enough that he can defeat them swiftly and easily. Heck, taking into account common knowledge, I don't see why a speed blitz can't happen from the get go. They both know how powerful Molecule Man is.

And the gap being that large is doubtful at this point. Taking into account his recent showing. Is "Marvel: Eye of the Camera" cannon? I'm pretty sure it is and based on it, Molecule Man isn't even as powerful as Silver Surfer.

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We don't know if that would work on Sentry (probably wouldn't as seeing how powerful Sentry is revealing to be). And we can say Sentry may only need a look to kill Thor or SS.


I don't see why it shouldn't. There isn't any evidence that whatever he has for a life force or soul cannot be removed.

Seriously doubt it. If that was the case, World War Hulk and the Blue Marvel fight would have ended a lot quicker.


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supposedly a mutant inhuman...

during illuminati, xavier was the one that believe beyonder was a mutant inhuman... beyonder acted the part when the illuminati faced him...

but throughout the entire issue:when black bolt was asked which inhuman could have become the beyonder... he tells xavier that he can't remember a single inhuman that did or could have become the beyonder...


Who says he acted the part?

The moment Black Bolt showed up, he went down on one knee and acted as he would facing his king.

Black Bolt didn't remember the incident but clearly the Beyonder did.

Also wasn't this Black Bolt the Skrull Black Bolt? If so, it just might be the limited knowledge of the Skrull. Although I'm not sure, with the time line and all.


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supposedly a mutant inhuman...

during illuminati, xavier was the one that believe beyonder was a mutant inhuman... beyonder acted the part when the illuminati faced him...

but throughout the entire issue:when black bolt was asked which inhuman could have become the beyonder... he tells xavier that he can't remember a single inhuman that did or could have become the beyonder...


Then again, they where asking the wrong Black Bolt. Since an usurper Skrull by then had taken over Black Bolts identity and position.


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Seriously doubt it. If that was the case, World War Hulk and the Blue Marvel fight would have ended a lot quicker.


Sentry is revealing to be much more. I admit we have to wait. As far as we know in his next fight he may not even be so powerful, but maybe MM is truly much much weaker. Still, Sentry couldn't have killed him any easier.


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Sentry is revealing to be much more. I admit we have to wait. As far as we know in his next fight he may not even be so powerful, but maybe MM is truly much much weaker. Still, Sentry couldn't have killed him any easier.


It's clearly a showing of great power. Above Top Tier obviously, but to use it as evidence that he'd stomp Thor or Silver Surfer much less together is pretty damn ridiculous.

I think Sentry's lack of feats recently, means that whenever he does anything impressive fans just gobble it up. If you had Thor do that to Molecule Man, I'd be impressed but in no way does that mean I'll go around saying his stomping Surfer and Superman at the same time effortlessly.

I never understood why people had problems with Sentry's lower showings. His entire power set is based off his mental state. Honestly if Sentry is revealed to be some cosmic entity, I'd have no problem. Based on all the lip service and how he was written in his original mini, I'd be fine with it. It's just going to take more than this one instance to put him above even beings like Thor or Surfer. It could be the beginning that leads up to such a revelation. I doubt it, but it is possible.


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lol, I forgot about when Aron stomped MM... and then got beaten by Uatu.


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I thought that besides powers they had implaneted the brainwaves and memories into the skrull imposters also


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Molecule Man.

Unlike Sentry none of the two can come back after Owen scater their molecules around the world

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Then again, they where asking the wrong Black Bolt. Since an usurper Skrull by then had taken over Black Bolts identity and position.


There was indeed something fishy there. The back story panels were showing BB there when the discovered the Inhuman that became Beyonder, when he was changed and when he was sent packing. Then, when when of them asked if BB remembered which Inhuman became the Beyonder, BB didn't know.

As for this thread, MM still wins. His loss to Sentry had more to do with this little world Sentry has control over and the fact that Owen went off the deep end than Owen being depowered or retconned again.


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Whatever... MM should stomp. Sentry being nothing like anything ever seen before by MM as far as molecular makeup is not a advantage that Thor or SS have.

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MM FTW

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Didn't MM have a hard time surviving a nuke? In DA 12, it was questioned if he can survive it


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Didn't MM have a hard time surviving a nuke? In DA 12, it was questioned if he can survive it


questioned?
not by him. By Victoria Hand.

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questioned?
not by him. By Victoria Hand.

Yup, and what happened when they shot at him with that Jet? He showed a crazy reaction to it. Unless of course, it was from Sentry


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Yup, and what happened when they shot at him with that Jet? He showed a crazy reaction to it. Unless of course, it was from Sentry


he showed what exactly?

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Yup, and what happened when they shot at him with that Jet? He showed a crazy reaction to it. Unless of course, it was from Sentry


he was pissed they lied..nothing more...hence the YOU LIARS...i dont understand where u got this crazy assumption from


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he showed what exactly?
Getting hurt. Unless it was from Sentry


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Getting hurt. Unless it was from Sentry


if we are talking about the instance when he said "what are you doing" or something like this to Victoria Hand, then yeah it was from the Sentry

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lol MM wins with ease.

In fact a mentally unstable MM already beat these two.


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lol MM wins with ease.

In fact a mentally unstable MM already beat these two.
Wasn't that when Captain America knocked Molecule Man out?

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