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Mshinu
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Parker gets raped.


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Parker solos easily. WTH r u talking about?


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Spider-man can easily solo Wolverine and Sabretooth. Look it up.


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No, he can't.


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Fighting to the best of his abilities he can.
but in a comic, he might even get some wins but lose a slight majority.


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Fighting to the best of his abilities he can.
but in a comic, he might even get some wins but lose a slight majority.


And what if Wolverine and Sabretooth fight to the best of their abilities as well...? Spidey's toast.

No way he would win in a comic.


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Parker solos easily. WTH r u talking about?


You're all about speed right?

Show me parker moving his arms this fast then I'll believe that he can solo Sabertooth and Wolverine (even though he cant).

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Parker? Soloing Logan and Creed?

Bullshit.


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That Parker wanking with tweezers has to end...


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And what if Wolverine and Sabretooth fight to the best of their abilities as well...? Spidey's toast.

No way he would win in a comic.


He could win in a comic because he took multiple tougher foes many times. He has fu%ked up and embarrassed many teams in a single panel. Hell if Spider-man beat firelord in a comic he can Logan and Sabretooth.


Believe it or not we and many others disagree on a very important subject.

Can someone be hit if they are fast or faster than the attack and have pre cog abilities?

You and others say yes but I say no.

This is where the discussion should begin. Because anywhere else would get us nowhere.

Here's my argument:

1. One has Pre cog that forewarns of future thus causing one to change it.
2. One doesn't want any bodily harm done to them.
3. One is fast enough to evade an attack, provided they move the moment it's launched or before.

Conclusion-One cannot get hit ever by such attacks. And if one cannot be hit, they cannot lose.

Lastly, I disagree with the argument 'Spider-man has been hit billions of times in comics so he has a chance of being hit here.'

I disagree because writers have spidey contradict his powers because he's too powerful and they can't think of a creative way to add adversity (enough where he can either lose or win) to the story.
He always manages to dodge hails of machine gun fire like a day job yet get hit by slower moving things.

That is why we have comic fights and forum fights. Big difference.

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sigh..... i'll give it to team 2 b/c logan has charged right into automatic gunfire and bn completely missed....... angel

also he has beaten parker consistently......... and so has sabretooth


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^Now you are trolling and should get a warning for purposely telling lies.

Spider-man has gotten the best out of Logan almost every appearance.


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Why is his teammate the shitty venom?


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^Now you are trolling and should get a warning for purposely telling lies.

Spider-man has gotten the best out of Logan almost every appearance.


Didn't Spider-Man wail away at Logan's skull for a while at full or near full strength only to have Logan laugh at him?


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His punches didn't break a head stone, or at least took multiple hits.

Maybe it was made out of adamantium too.


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^Now you are trolling and should get a warning for purposely telling lies.

Spider-man has gotten the best out of Logan almost every appearance.


im not lying and i would luv for you to report me just to see a mod read the thread and decide who to punish......... stick out tongue



any ways i remember an incident where spidey was mad at logan b/c he though logan was hitting on his wife... so spidey went straight for logan talking smack trying to kick his butt during training and logan just stabbed him and told him to man up......... big grin


also their was this other time where spidey was in a subway tunnel with logan and parker couldnt do a damn thing when they were fighting mole man's monsters that logan had to take charge of the fight.... they later confronted carver and spidey thinking he could take carver got knocked the f&^% down without landing his punch.... basically parker tried to step up just to get knocked down.... then logan told spidey he would take care of it and fought and beat carver even with interference of carver's morlock allies... their are situations like this between spidey and logan a lot more.......... just about every time showing parker being pretty incompetent when it comes to actual trained hero meta's cool


and then parker was on the sideline screaming logan noooooo!!!!!!! no one has to die!!


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I always thought Spidey was the guy who could mess up and outsmart. Any melee fighter. Spidey would just take em on in the air until he can take advantage of the environment to bind them up. You can say Spidey could take down villians Logan had a hard time with.


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Parker is the guy who can adapt and use his surroundings in order to pull PIS wins when otherwise he would be incapable of beating ppl equal or below his stats due to experience lvl in combination to attributes.......b/c he is not actually a skilled warrior meta and cant fight on equal footing in an actual physical confrontation...

that is why parker swings around and uses poles or hit and swing techniques or webbing at a distance when he knows he cant outfight someone with kick and punches...... b/c the person in question has at least lvl 4 fighting skills and wont run into his fist like other villains he faces who charge and are too stupid to duck or thing they are durable enough not be hurt and to their shock either are or get knocked into a power generator ....


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im not lying and i would luv for you to report me just to see a mod read the thread and decide who to punish......... stick out tongue



any ways i remember an incident where spidey was mad at logan b/c he though logan was hitting on his wife... so spidey went straight for logan talking smack trying to kick his butt during training and logan just stabbed him and told him to man up......... big grin


also their was this other time where spidey was in a subway tunnel with logan and parker couldnt do a damn thing when they were fighting mole man's monsters that logan had to take charge of the fight.... they later confronted carver and spidey thinking he could take carver got knocked the f&^% down without landing his punch.... basically parker tried to step up just to get knocked down.... then logan told spidey he would take care of it and fought and beat carver even with interference of carver's morlock allies... their are situations like this between spidey and logan a lot more.......... just about every time showing parker being pretty incompetent when it comes to actual trained hero meta's cool


Dude you are full of it. That first incident wasn't a real fight even though Spidey got some good hits in. The second is not Logan beating Spidey either. Either you didn't see the other incidents where Spidey easily (and I mean easily) outclassed and embarrassed Logan like he was nothing or you are lying. Spider-man even embarrassed Logan while he was also fighting the other X-men at the same time.

Lastly, comic fights don't hold much weight as evidence due to various known reasons. Spidey has pre-cog abilities as well as superior speed. These alone makes it impossible for both Logan and Sabretooth to hit him. This not to mention the webbing which can hold 10ton per strand and multiple strands exceeding over 100ton. Spidey once webbed Logan up so easily that Logan couldn't even cut himself out (he had to wait for the webbing to dissolve). Hell a pissed Spidey can level them in a matter of a minute.

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15 years of perfecting his own fighting style. Against a city that is a petry dish of insanity and he kicks most of them. I sometimes wondered if Spideys fighting skill is actually better the Wolveys. He is New Yorks protector and the only way team 2 can beat him is through capturing Aunt May and drawing him in. Sabertooth is only good with stealth kills and that wont work with spider sense.


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