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his claws didnt really change much it was still his overall strength..


Wouldn't say that. The kick to the head was a strength feat, though.

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anyways a better steel door feat was when he was death and broke through even with x-man TK help. angel


Was thinking about that, too. But it was stated that he was slicing through it.

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also when he was carrying a ninja kid on his shoulders and tossed a guy through a steel bolted door where ironfist was hiding in.


Could you tell me what issue that was?

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also he broke omniom shackles same material that colossus is compose of, iirc embarrasment


Colossus is composed of unknown metal resembling osmium, not omnium stick out tongue

The toughest shackles I remember him busting out from were those unbreakable chromalloy and Mesmero ones.


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Wouldn't say that. The kick to the head was a strength feat, though.



Was thinking about that, too. But it was stated that he was slicing through it.



well he did still have to break through it after slicing the doors that were being backed by X-man.

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Could you tell me what issue that was?


nope sorry it is his respect thread i think the guy he was fighting at the time was matsu or something... he had stolen the iron fist from danny and kick his @$$ and his friends and logan had to come in and show them what a real lvl 7 MA'er can do.




Colossus is composed of unknown metal resembling osmium, not omnium stick out tongue

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The toughest shackles I remember him busting out from were those unbreakable chromalloy and Mesmero ones.


the unbreakable ones right? even better... big grin


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well he did still have to break through it after slicing the doors that were being backed by X-man.


Good point.

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nope sorry it is his respect thread i think the guy he was fighting at the time was matsu or something... he had stolen the iron fist from danny and kick his @$$ and his friends and logan had to come in and show them what a real lvl 7 MA'er can do.


You mean Junzo?



BTW, am I the only one who considers the wagon feat from Origins #36 impressive?


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CA is fairly stronger than Logan by both feats and average showings.
Wolverine doesn't even come out as having super strength in most appearances. Most people don't even know that Wolverine is very strong. But many know CA is.

CA has feats that exceed 5 tons. He was also using strength dampeners as well to keep his strength at peak human levels.


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CA is fairly stronger than Logan by both feats and average showings.
Wolverine doesn't even come out as having super strength in most appearances. Most people don't even know that Wolverine is very strong. But many know CA is.

CA has feats that exceed 5 tons. He was also using strength dampeners as well to keep his strength at peak human levels.


care to explain said feats?


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Most people think Cap is just peak human...

Logan has a feat exceeding 15 tons shifty


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Captain America strength level is peak human. Wolverine strength level is enhance human. Enhance human is higher then peak human therefore Wolverine is stronger then Captain America.

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Wolverine has gone into the meta range multiple times. And that feat with Cap repeatedly hitting the door, didn't Wolverine trap Colossus in the danger room, set it on high, then pried his way through the locked door, leaving it dented where he pushed it apart?

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care to explain said feats?


Koing Hulk in a few blows, Throwing a shield faster than a missle, crumbling a 1/2ft thick steel door, putting a serious hurting on class 75 and greater beings with his kicks alone, etc.

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Well, Wolverine took down Roughouse with only punches.

He slashed through Thanos with bone claws.

Etc...

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Wolverine, imo.


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Captain America strength level is peak human. Wolverine strength level is enhance human. Enhance human is higher then peak human therefore Wolverine is stronger then Captain America.


If you are going by official bios then Wolverine isn't even peak human.
If you are going by comics CA not only has more strength feats but better ones too.

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Well, Wolverine took down Roughouse with only punches.

He slashed through Thanos with bone claws.

Etc...


Wolverine has the adamantium advantage is why his blows are damaging. CA has hurt and koed stronger foes with his ordinary being (no adamantium advantage).

The second one isn't canon. Otherwise Thanos is a pillow man.

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I agree Logan having enhanced skeletal structure helps him hit harder and lift more weight.


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Captain America strength level is peak human. Wolverine strength level is enhance human. Enhance human is higher then peak human therefore Wolverine is stronger then Captain America.


That's what handbooks are saying.

Going by feats and on panel statements, they are both enhanced.

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Wolverine has gone into the meta range multiple times. And that feat with Cap repeatedly hitting the door, didn't Wolverine trap Colossus in the danger room, set it on high, then pried his way through the locked door, leaving it dented where he pushed it apart?


Yep.

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If you are going by official bios then Wolverine isn't even peak human.


Wrong.


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Wrong.


I haven't read any new handbooks (>2005). The OHOTMU doesn't have Wolverine as enhanced human.

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I haven't read any new handbooks (>2005). The OHOTMU doesn't have Wolverine as enhanced human.


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logan's profile from OHOTMU master edition entry :

gives outright stats to his powers

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what the stats mean:
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What year was that handbook? Maybe I'm confusing with another handbook (could be X-men 2004 or something).


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What year was that handbook? Maybe I'm confusing with another handbook (could be X-men 2004 or something).


Don't know. Wolverine 2004 handbook had his strength in superhuman range, too (800 Ibs - 25 ton).


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