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Soul Reaver vs. Master Sword (Actually it's Raziel vs. Link)
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MooCowofJustice
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If NemeSis' threads didn't suck we could have decided this already.

The Master Sword is capable of reflecting magic boosted by the power of the Triforce. It can handle any spell Raziel throws at it.


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Nah, its reflected little bolts in gameplay no doubt. Raziel lets loose an AOE blast and Link goes down, Raziel slashes him and Link goes down, Raziel causes an Earthquake and Link trips and cuts himself in half etc etc


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You have a tendency to use gameplay against Link and now you want to exclude it when it would work for Link. Tisk tisk BT. We had a long talk about this in another thread. Be consistent and quit playing silly bugger.

But anyway, it can handle the spells Raziel has. In ALttP Ganon did possess the entire Triforce and during the battle he did use magic against you. Raziel will need to get close to Link in order to kill him. In which case he will eat a Mortal Draw or a Great Spin attack.


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OMG you guys.

The Soul Reaver is a weak piece of trash because it broke. It fails as a sword, case closed.

Also, Master Sword>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Keyblade


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OMG you guys.

The Soul Reaver is a weak piece of trash because it broke. It fails as a sword, case closed.

Also, Master Sword>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Keyblade


The only thing that the Master Sword has over the Keyblade is that it can shoot weak magic projectiles and protect the user from TK.

The keyblade can seal portals, give the user superhuman abilities, cut through skyscrapers, reflect thrown projectiles, instantly return to the user's hands, and use an AoE.

Show me situations where Link's Master Sword cut large structures and deflected a room full of lasers.


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The Soul Reaver is a weak piece of trash because it broke. It fails as a sword, case closed.

It broke due to a paradox of not being able to eat its own soul, not for being frail.
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The only thing that the Master Sword has over the Keyblade is that it can shoot weak magic projectiles and protect the user from TK.

Wouldn't Wisdom form count, shooting magic projectiles out of the keyblade and all.


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Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
Show me situations where Link's Master Sword cut large structures and deflected a room full of lasers.


Cutting through skyscrapers and laser deflection? Not impressive, because Cloud and Sephiroth were able to do that with non-magical blades.
I call toonforce on that entire game.
My proof? Mickey. Donald. Goofy. Simba. Sora in a mermaid outfit.


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Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
You have a tendency to use gameplay against Link and now you want to exclude it when it would work for Link. Tisk tisk BT. We had a long talk about this in another thread. Be consistent and quit playing silly bugger.

But anyway, it can handle the spells Raziel has. In ALttP Ganon did possess the entire Triforce and during the battle he did use magic against you. Raziel will need to get close to Link in order to kill him. In which case he will eat a Mortal Draw or a Great Spin attack.


Nah. I am always persistant Padme.

Nah, its not handled any real powers at all, its not handled AOE and Raziel does not use many projectile attacks himself. Ganons weak powers he uses are nothing to the reaver. Not reall,y he could just let loose the ice reaver and pretty much freeze him solid, then smash him. Mortal draw and great spin are flawed, anyone can spin with their weapon and mortal draw is determined by Links slow speeds.


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Cutting through skyscrapers and laser deflection? Not impressive, because Cloud and Sephiroth were able to do that with non-magical blades.
I call toonforce on that entire game.
My proof? Mickey. Donald. Goofy. Simba. Sora in a mermaid outfit.


I swear to god if I ever see you use toonforce in a post again I'll destroy you.

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Nah. I am always persistant Padme.

Nah, its not handled any real powers at all, its not handled AOE and Raziel does not use many projectile attacks himself. Ganons weak powers he uses are nothing to the reaver. Not reall,y he could just let loose the ice reaver and pretty much freeze him solid, then smash him. Mortal draw and great spin are flawed, anyone can spin with their weapon and mortal draw is determined by Links slow speeds.


Persistence can be just as much a curse as it is a gift. And I didn't even mention persistence, so whatever.

Ganondorf is a far more powerful magic user than Raziel. His weakest spell being deflected by the Master Sword means anything Raziel has gets deflected with twice the force it was sent with. Not everyone can Great Spin. It is a magical attack by the way. Raziel can dodge the blade but he'll still be hit unless he's not at close range.

His only chance is at close range since spells won't work.


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Persistence can be just as much a curse as it is a gift. And I didn't even mention persistence, so whatever.

Ganondorf is a far more powerful magic user than Raziel. His weakest spell being deflected by the Master Sword means anything Raziel has gets deflected with twice the force it was sent with. Not everyone can Great Spin. It is a magical attack by the way. Raziel can dodge the blade but he'll still be hit unless he's not at close range.

His only chance is at close range since spells won't work.


I am persistant in being fair between characters, always.

I lold, Raziel does not use magic as such, he uses the reavers energy, and being more powerful does not mean Link has felt the fury of all his power. Not really, how does that calculation work? great, so its a spin with a little bit of magic.....

Their spells the likes of which Link has ever been protected/defended against. When has he been protected by being frozen solid by an AOE of frost?


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I am persistant in being fair between characters, always.

I lold, Raziel does not use magic as such, he uses the reavers energy, and being more powerful does not mean Link has felt the fury of all his power. Not really, how does that calculation work? great, so its a spin with a little bit of magic.....

Their spells the likes of which Link has ever been protected/defended against. When has he been protected by being frozen solid by an AOE of frost?


Ah. Then the word you were looking for in that particular lie was consistency.

Cool? If that energy sentence was a point you might want to elaborate. Link probably hasn't. But he still deflected magic of the Triforce. Oh it doesn't. It just means it's coming back at Raziel faster.

Twinrova.


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Raziel is not magical, the powers he uses are not necesserily blockable by a sword thats suppost to reflect magic. Also you argue its the sword of evils bane, it may only reflect evil magic.

Twinrova fires slow moving bolts that Link has to dodge....


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Spells would equal magic. And that second one was actually a good point. But now I have to go read about Raziel or something. So you suck. mad

Actually they have to be reflected into the other witch.


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Spells would equal magic. And that second one was actually a good point. But now I have to go read about Raziel or something. So you suck. mad

Actually they have to be reflected into the other witch.


I saw beams that were reflected by the mirror shield, and orbs that shattered into a pool of ice on the ground that the player dodged in my vid.


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You haven't done a Raziel page on the Wiki. That's no good.


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I swear to god if I ever see you use toonforce in a post again I'll destroy you.


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No limit fallacy statement, show me it reflecting or stopping these attacks.
This isn't a no limit fallacy, Ganon's power can destroy islands, Raziel's is on a much smaller scale.

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Not really.

Yeah really.

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Not really, its just Link spinning with a little topping of magic energy, anyone can spin with their weapons

Actually they can't, and that spin will rape the hell out of Raziel.

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Not really, hes slow, his skill means nothing and Raziel still has a good bowl of powers just from his reaver. Whats dinky link got? a sad little sword whos feats are few?
Actually, the sword's got more feats to it's name than Raziel.

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He could never take it once, Raz takes it 10/10, 9/10 if he "lets" link hit him and cannot use his reaver spells.
Keep dreaming. Raziel has not a single advantage. His spells will be reflected, his face will be raped, and he will lose. stick out tongue

Link >>>>>> Raziel

Master Sword >>>>>> Reaver.

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Wouldn't Wisdom form count, shooting magic projectiles out of the keyblade and all.


The Drives don't come from the keyblade. It existed because of the spell made by the Sleeping Beauty fairies.

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Cutting through skyscrapers and laser deflection? Not impressive, because Cloud and Sephiroth were able to do that with non-magical blades.
I call toonforce on that entire game.
My proof? Mickey. Donald. Goofy. Simba. Sora in a mermaid outfit.


Don't even try to pull a BT on me.


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Keyblade is stronger as it makes the user faster than what he normally is( Sora was teleporting all over the place in his fight with Xemnas), Makes the user strong enough to play tennis with a building, an allows him to activate variety of magic.


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