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Every time I've seen them do it it either involves running around the target repeatedly or physically touching them.

Nah, Kevdude posted one recently and there were a bunch of people on the skies

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Im not saying that Barry and Wally has never done it. I know they have, but ive never seen anyone other that Wally steal it from a distance as youve stated. The one time i did see Wally do it, he had people build up the kinetic energy to give to him. Also, Flash's speed stealing of people doesnt happen often at all. Not every 5 years, but not 1 out of 5 issues either.

Well, it would be stupid if they steal speed from everyone lol

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I dont see anyone on Earth beating Mogo besides a magician or POSSIBLY Firestorm.

So you don't believe punches that can destroy a planet would destroy Mogo


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So you don't believe punches that can destroy a planet would destroy Mogo


If Mogo were a regular planet with no type of defense, yea. But he isnt.


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I should have put it in the OP but no Mogo. I should think that would be obvious. Anyway I'm pretty sure his gravity well would mean a OHK for planet Earth if he arrived on the battlefield.


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I think Dc earth can pull the win. They have three speedsters, four mages and a-lot of back up in strength. The wild cards of course are The Phatom Strenger, and Black Alice. If Alice is able to wield the power of a near by powerful mage, the Spectre, or Mogo, then the team takes it. Furthermore, if enough time is given to the mages i'm sure they can come up with something relatively fast. The martian can connect their minds together. Their are so many possibilities, but enough time is needed to conduct a stragegy.


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So you don't believe punches that can destroy a planet would destroy Mogo
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While there's maybe a hundred heroes, there's probably only 20-30 that really matter and will be able to take lanterns out. Maybe 20-30 more that are useful if they can form a group and gang up on lanterns.

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I think Dc earth can pull the win. They have three speedsters, four mages and a-lot of back up in strength. The wild cards of course are The Phatom Strenger, and Black Alice. If Alice is able to wield the power of a near by powerful mage, the Spectre, or Mogo, then the team takes it. Furthermore, if enough time is given to the mages i'm sure they can come up with something relatively fast. The martian can connect their minds together. Their are so many possibilities, but enough time is needed to conduct a stragegy.


She wouldn't be able to get Mogo, he's non-mystic. Also, she's on a time limit- if she grabs someone strong, Alice runs out fast and'll soon lose it.

Phantom Stranger isn't on any of the listed teams.

And I'm not sure those strategies would work against this many lanterns. Psychics all mind-linking may be able to get enough mental omph to punch through the mental shields of a portion of the lanterns, but not all of them.

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While there's maybe a hundred heroes, there's probably only 20-30 that really matter and will be able to take lanterns out. Maybe 20-30 more that are useful if they can form a group and gang up on lanterns.



She wouldn't be able to get Mogo, he's non-mystic. Also, she's on a time limit- if she grabs someone strong, Alice runs out fast and'll soon lose it.

Phantom Stranger isn't on any of the listed teams.

And I'm not sure those strategies would work against this many lanterns. Psychics all mind-linking may be able to get enough mental omph to punch through the mental shields of a portion of the lanterns, but not all of them.


Black Alice was able to harnass the power of Giganta, and Count Vertigo. From what I know, their not mystics. Also, she was able to wield the power of Nigthshade for a very long time while confronting Black Lanterns.

Wasn't the Phatom Stranger, part of the Satellite era?

I believe there are about 40 superheroes who will contribute to their victory. There are three flashes, two martians, four krptonians (if you include superboy), three lanterns (hal, alan, and jade), three amazons, four mages, etc..


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Earth's defenses:
JLA (Big Seven+Current members+Satellite Era members)
JSA (All current members, no Spectre)
Doom Patrol
Secret Six (Current)
Suicide Squad
Teen Titans
Great Ten
Rocket Reds
Outsiders

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600 of the best GLs minus Earth GLs, Ion, Alpha Lanterns, and Guardians.


The Lanterns destroy the entire planet killing most of the heroes. Then they wipe of the rest.

Seriously though, the Lanterns should be able to put a huge force fields around most of these groups and remove the air killing a lot of these guys. The heavy hitters are dealt by the best of the Lanterns.


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Black Alice was able to harnass the power of Giganta, and Count Vertigo. From what I know, their not mystics. Also, she was able to wield the power of Nigthshade for a very long time while confronting Black Lanterns.


Giganta is definitely magic-powered, as commented on in Blue Beetle, and I think Vertigo had his powers internalized by magic. It doesn't have to be a spellcaster, just a magic power source.

Nightshade she held onto awhile, but Nightshade's not all that powerful.

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Wasn't the Phatom Stranger, part of the Satellite era?


*Checks* It seems he was. I had thought he had only assisted them without joining, but I was misremembering. So that's a nice aid.

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I believe there are about 40 superheroes who will contribute to their victory. There are three flashes, two martians, four krptonians (if you include superboy), three lanterns (hal, alan, and jade), three amazons, four mages, etc..


Yea, I don't think that's enough against 600 of the best GLs, which probably includes that many named ones.

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Giganta is definitely magic-powered, as commented on in Blue Beetle, and I think Vertigo had his powers internalized by magic. It doesn't have to be a spellcaster, just a magic power source.

Nightshade she held onto awhile, but Nightshade's not all that powerful.

*Checks* It seems he was. I had thought he had only assisted them without joining, but I was misremembering. So that's a nice aid.

Yea, I don't think that's enough against 600 of the best GLs, which probably includes that many named ones.


For some reason, I though Black Alice could harness the power of anyone. But it makes sense that Giganta is magic based. In what issue was this stated?

Anyway, I'm sure Black Alice can summon someone else's power. There has to be a powerful mage, or god on earth right?

Theres only 15 gl's who are worth mentioning. The others are cannon fodders. Many were easily killed by the yellow lanters, red lanterns etc.. In sinestro corps, the heroes were able to defeat multiple members. I think the heroes have a shot, if they play their cards right. The flashes could lend their speed to the other heroes, especially the mages. Imagine what Zatanna, or Dr. Fate would be able to to do if they repeat one hundred spells per minute.

The heroes we're able to defeat a martian invasion, i'm sure they'll be able to do the same against 500 green lanterns, especially since most are low heralds at best. big grin


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600 is a huge number, even if only a hundred of them are any bloody use.

I'd give it to the Lanterns, but only barely.


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For some reason, I though Black Alice could harness the power of anyone. But it makes sense that Giganta is magic based. In what issue was this stated?


Blue Beetle 19.

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Anyway, I'm sure Black Alice can summon someone else's power. There has to be a powerful mage, or god on earth right?


But if she does pick a powerful one, then she's only got abilities for a few minutes. That's the trade off.

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Theres only 15 gl's who are worth mentioning. The others are cannon fodders.


There's more than that, the Lost Lanterns on their own make up a half dozen.

And even the less powerful ones are still useful if their powers are used collectively.


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Imagine what Zatanna, or Dr. Fate would be able to to do if they repeat one hundred spells per minute.


I'm not sure if speeding them up physically will increase the rate of flow of magic into their bodies to use.


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The heroes we're able to defeat a martian invasion, i'm sure they'll be able to do the same against 500 green lanterns, especially since most are low heralds at best. big grin


Yea, I think 600 Low-heralds (with some mids tossed in) win smile

The martians were smaller in number and had greater vulnerabilities.


The GLs, in addition to the rings, also have a good number of those with unique powers.

Leezle Pon is a smallpox who could likely sicken a lot of heroes. Von Daggle a Durlan who's immune to telepathy and uses his shapeshifting in extremely nasty ways. R'amey Holl was hyper-evolved after coming into contact with the rock that gave Captain Comet his powers. Quite a few also have super-strength and similar.

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