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Team 2 with no trouble. Superman is no match for gladiator in stats or comic book feats. Gladiator is far stronger, far faster in flight speed, combat speed and way way more skilled in combat. Superman has never came close to being able to destroy a planet or move at 100 times light speed ( thor at 3 times light speed on panel has a higher flight speed than supes. fact ). I know people love supes and will defend him with no proof whatsoever other than word of mouth. But by on panel proof, a defender of glads can say and show glads doing the things that puts him with pre-crisis supes.

Finally, the confidences thing is old and worn out... superman or wonder woman would never come close to doing anything to affect his state of mind.. if anything, they might make him far more aggressive. So we have a planet destroyer vs a person that hurt himself ramming a moon. No contest. I like supes, but feats do not exist to support supes ability to destroy a planet, move atleast 2 times light speed ( let alone 100 ) Team 2 10/10 by on panel feats. Please, i do not debate word of mouth feats, or fan based feats. And i dont respond to known featless fans. Thanks for respecting my wishes.

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Team 2 with no trouble. Superman is no match for gladiator in stats or comic book feats. Gladiator is far stronger, far faster in flight speed, combat speed and way way more skilled in combat. Superman has never came close to being able to destroy a planet or move at 100 times light speed ( thor at 3 times light speed on panel has a higher flight speed than supes. fact ). I know people love supes and will defend him with no proof whatsoever other than word of mouth. But by on panel proof, a defender of glads can say and show glads doing the things that puts him with pre-crisis supes.

Finally, the confidences thing is old and worn out... superman or wonder woman would never come close to doing anything to affect his state of mind.. if anything, they might make him far more aggressive. So we have a planet destroyer vs a person that hurt himself ramming a moon. No contest. I like supes, but feats do not exist to support supes ability to destroy a planet, move atleast 2 times light speed ( let alone 100 ) Team 2 10/10 by on panel feats. Please, i do not debate word of mouth feats, or fan based feats. And i dont respond to known featless fans. Thanks for respecting my wishes.
Pathetic attempt at downplaying Superman but i respect your opinion even if its complete shit thumb up


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Team 2 with no trouble. Superman is no match for gladiator in stats or comic book feats. Gladiator is far stronger, far faster in flight speed, combat speed and way way more skilled in combat. Superman has never came close to being able to destroy a planet or move at 100 times light speed ( thor at 3 times light speed on panel has a higher flight speed than supes. fact ). I know people love supes and will defend him with no proof whatsoever other than word of mouth. But by on panel proof, a defender of glads can say and show glads doing the things that puts him with pre-crisis supes.

Finally, the confidences thing is old and worn out... superman or wonder woman would never come close to doing anything to affect his state of mind.. if anything, they might make him far more aggressive. So we have a planet destroyer vs a person that hurt himself ramming a moon. No contest. I like supes, but feats do not exist to support supes ability to destroy a planet, move atleast 2 times light speed ( let alone 100 ) Team 2 10/10 by on panel feats. Please, i do not debate word of mouth feats, or fan based feats. And i dont respond to known featless fans. Thanks for respecting my wishes.


100x light speed in hyperspace. Pointless in a fight.

Cannonball made him lose his confidence.

Destroyed a planetoid of unknown size and unknown composition by causing a chain reaction within it with a few punches. I love how Gladiator fans wank that one feat and can't even get the details right.

Glads falls hard to the original alien with a cape.


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100x light speed in hyperspace. Pointless in a fight.

Cannonball made him lose his confidence.

Destroyed a planetoid of unknown size and unknown composition by causing a chain reaction within it with a few punches. I love how Gladiator fans wank that one feat and can't even get the details right.

Glads falls hard to the original alien with a cape.
When did it say that he was in hyperspace?? Tyrant did make him lose confidence. I love how supes fans wank that planet for its size and try to give details about composition or a chain reaction event without any proof whatsoever. Gladiator wins by feats that exist on panel.

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Pathetic attempt at downplaying Superman but i respect your opinion even if its complete shit thumb up
I have seen ALL of your answers about superman... They consist of nothing but word of mouth, no proof whatsoever. The others will arrive shortly with the same insults and fan based opinions.. Followed by the big guns of power.

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When did it say that he was in hyperspace?? Tyrant did make him lose confidence. I love how supes fans wank that planet for its size and try to give details about composition or a chain reaction event without any proof whatsoever. Gladiator wins by feats that exist on panel.


Gladiator moves FTL in hyperspace. Show me a scan when he moves FTL under his own momentum.

It's stated on-panel that there's a chain reaction within the planet that leads to its destruction, caused by Gladiator's punches. Oh, and size and composition matter when we talks about planets being destroyed. A planet made of adamantium is harder than a planet made of styrofoam, etc. Why don't you post the feat for everyone to see?


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Team 2, they are just a bit better.


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The way I see it Supes and Glads are extreamly evenly matched. Any fight between them will last for a while. Especially if Supes "steps it up" which he is known to do and Glads get really determined (see how vulcan lost his eye). A fight between them would be fantastic.

I don't know much about Maxima to be honest and not sure how a fight between the two will end.

I know maxima has a certain level of telepathy? Would maxima be able to mentally **** with supes? WW seems to not be affected by mental due to her gear. If this works Maxima can distract Supes long enough for Glads to beat the piss out of WW.

But if it's supes v Glads and WW v. maxima i think the fight will be determined between the ladies and whoever if left standing on the women side will join the man to double team whoever is left.

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Gladiator moves FTL in hyperspace. Show me a scan when he moves FTL under his own momentum.

It's stated on-panel that there's a chain reaction within the planet that leads to its destruction, caused by Gladiator's punches. Oh, and size and composition matter when we talks about planets being destroyed. A planet made of adamantium is harder than a planet made of styrofoam, etc. Why don't you post the feat for everyone to see?
When gladiator contained that explosion he then went 100 times light speed towards earth and was tracked and clocked at that speed in open space.. Thats why reed was able to follow his movement. I just looked at the scan where he destroyed that planet... no such statement of a chain reaction. I go by on panel events, not what i think or what others think... glads destroyed a planet.. where as superman rammed a moon an knocked himself out... he had to build up all the mass he could get to destroy a small moon plus build up speed that was pushing him to his limits.. ALL ON PANEL.

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N When gladiator contained that explosion he then went 100 times light speed towards earth and was tracked and clocked at that speed in open space.. Thats why reed was able to follow his movement. I just looked at the scan where he destroyed that planet... no such statement of a chain reaction. I go by on panel events, not what i think or what others think... glads destroyed a planet.. where as superman rammed a moon an knocked himself out... he had to build up all the mass he could get to destroy a small moon plus build up speed that was pushing him to his limits.. ALL ON PANEL.
You mean a moon made of solid energy?Your summation of the event in question was pointless as it was the energy release from the dark mattee that :"Ls superman. Get your facts strait.

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When gladiator contained that explosion he then went 100 times light speed towards earth and was tracked and clocked at that speed in open space.. Thats why reed was able to follow his movement. I just looked at the scan where he destroyed that planet... no such statement of a chain reaction. I go by on panel events, not what i think or what others think... glads destroyed a planet.. where as superman rammed a moon a knocked himself out... he had to build up all the mass he could get to destroy a small moon plus build up speed that was pushing him to his limits.. ALL ON PANEL.


Post the scans.

Never says he's "pushing himself" to destroy the moon ON-PANEL. He flies through it because he's pissed at Luthor. There was no pressing need to destroy it so why would he be pushing himself to do it?

Oh, the Shadow Moon? Wonder how he survived that fight with Zod under a red sun which destroyed the planet they were on. Or the supernova feat...


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The way I see it Supes and Glads are extreamly evenly matched. Any fight between them will last for a while. Especially if Supes "steps it up" which he is known to do and Glads get really determined (see how vulcan lost his eye). A fight between them would be fantastic.


If Superman "stepped it up," Gladiator would get sodomized with his own mohawk.


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Post the scans.

Never says he's "pushing himself" to destroy the moon ON-PANEL. He flies through it because he's pissed at Luthor. There was no pressing need to destroy it so why would he be pushing himself to do it?

Oh, the Shadow Moon? Wonder how he survived that fight with Zod under a red sun which destroyed the planet they were on. Or the supernova feat...
That planet was destroying itself when superman fought zod.. Their fight had nothing to do with it.. all on panel.

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If Superman "stepped it up," Gladiator would get sodomized with his own mohawk.


sure boss, whatever you say.

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If Superman "stepped it up," Gladiator would get sodomized with his own mohawk.
Superman stepped it up against wonder woman when he was bloodlusted and WW did well against him and could have really hurt him if she did not care for him..... Gladiator is not as forgiving nor is he his friend..Its as if you think supes gets stronger or a better fighter by stepping it up?? Not the case... Gladiator is the only one that gets stronger by stepping it up... All on panel facts. wink

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That planet was destroying itself when superman fought zod.. Their fight had nothing to do with it.. all on panel.


Destroying itself because...?


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Superman stepped it up against wonder woman when he was bloodlusted and WW did well against him and could have really hurt him if she did not care for him..... Gladiator is not as forgiving nor is he his friend..Its as if you think supes gets stronger or a better fighter by stepping it up?? Not the case... Gladiator is the only one that gets stronger by stepping it up... All on panel facts. wink
Gladiator does not have the benefit of an indestructible shield, magic, or telepathy. He also does not know Superman as well as Diana so where she would be able to predict his next move, glads won't.

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Destroying itself because...?
Because of events that were NOT caused by supes or zod... This has been proven before on KMC... superman and zods fight had NOTHING to do with anything being destroyed except their own bodys. You claim that the planet glads destroyed had a ( chain reaction ). yet it never ever stated that anywhere... yet you claim that supes and zods fight was destroying a planet when ON PANEL it stated otherwise and have been shown on here by people that the fight had nothing to do with that planet.. So you are ignoring ON PANEL proof and at the same time defending supes with no proof whatsoever.

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