This is annoying without saying who would win but now everyone wanks on that Anti Matter showing, we have other people getting knocked out big exploding gas stations, hurt by bullets, or beaten down with a stupid car and noone would seriously ride on that except to mock others.
I guess Thor and Surfer now take 10/10 against Thanos right?
EDIT: Even if he was on full power it was a low showing and in my opinion just to show that Death again rejected him.
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1. Huh? What is speculation? Are you really this slow? You do know how people with total control over their molecure structure use that control right. You think their stomach kicks in and does the reforming or whatever needs doing? So answer this question... Does your mind play a big role in your ability to control your molecular structure? The answer, unless your blatantly lying will be yes your mind is used and important. Once we get that answer out of you.. you already admitted the universe made it difficult for him mentally.. Thus there is ZERO speculation involved. We know Thanos was at full power mentally and that is all I need to prove for this thread. Something effecting a mentally weak thanos ISN'T applicable to a full powered Thanos. Period. No. 1 you lost convincingly
2. You truly are slow aren't you... The reason (stated on panel) that they were able to control him before was because he wasn't at full power. You already admitted this. Then right before the blast they try and control him again and say... "He's regained TOO MUCH power, we can't control him anymore" Now English is your first language right? Does that line mean... he IS at full power.. nope try again.. It said he's regained too much power. The burden is on you to show that he was at full power. We have a basic english sentence that a 10 year old could comprehend. The onus is on you.. PROVE he was at full power. We have NO LINES or NARRATION or ANYTHING stating he was at full power. Right before the blast they note... he's regained not much power NOT he's at full power we can't control him.. nope REGAINED TOO MUCH POWER. So.. being that this line says the opposite of what you're claiming.. please provide ANY narration stating that he was at full power. Until then.. we can say he regained 25%, 50%, 75% or even 99%.. we don't know.. but what we do know is that it wasn't a 100%. You lose no. 2... not looking good son.
3. Since you're calling me a liar and saying this was never said.. do you wanna place a wager on that? If I'm right.. you can't show up on this site for lets say... 2 weeks.. if I'm wrong.. I won't show up for 2 weeks? Seem fair? For someone to claim I'm a liar and clearly haven't even read the comics is astounding. Thus simply posting it won't due. So you're dying that it was theorized that Thanos durability didn't seem up to par since his resurrection? Just want to make sure.... Suffice to say.. you lose no. 3 royally and are made to look like a chump. Just how big a chump will be up to you if you take the bet...
All in all, what is clear beyond a shadow of a doubt and undisputable is that Thanos WASN'T at full power when the blast occured. Not only mentally weak but physically weak as well. What is worse.. the writer even made it more clear this isn't applicable to a 616 full powered Thanos by noting that his durabiilty didn't seem up to par. I don't understand why people try and talk about comics they haven't read and then call me a liar. I'm will be awaiting your response.
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Its about time Anti-Matter got its due as far as I am concerned; the transformation from matter to energy is nearly perfect and is practically instantaneous, so the energies released from even a small amount of it are extremely powerful and extremely destructive...
So yeah, Anti-Matter should absolutely f**kup Mr Prune face...
Anti Matter in comics is a billion years away from RL AM and it always was, going by that the whole spaceship should got blown up and DC antimatter is more like acid and not like antimatter...
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It did. On-panel. Zero indication other than it actually disintegrated Thanos on-panel. Thanos was strong enough mentally that Mantis and Cosmo could not affect him at all. Sounds about right for a character who has recovered mightily. And technically, Thanos' durability was basically never higher until that point in Thanos Imperative if you think about it. You're trying to argue that a "full-powered" Thanos would exceed all our expectations. Based on what? There's no evidence that Thanos' durability would vastly exceed the form that got disintegrated completely.
In any case, BB just makes a bigger anti-matter projectile.
Let me correct your statement and give credit to Lord for choosing better words. There is ZERO evidence that this blast would do the same to a full powered Thanos. ZERO. If you have any scans of thanos getting hit (when at full power) by anti matter and it killing him... please post it. You won't find it will you... Thus Lord was finally correct in saying it should.. not that it would. We have no way of knowing what would happen to Thanos at full-power taking that blast.
Again ODG, why do you continue to argue with me... It was he regained enough power that they couldn't mind rape hm anymore. NOT NOT that he regained all his power.. if you have ANY narration saying he was back at full power please post it.. you have nothing though do you. What we do know is Thanos is that badass that even not at full power he could resist two of the top telepaths not even at full strength. Whether he was at 50%, 75% or 90% nobody can say.. what we CAN say is that he wasn't at full power.
The killer is we have Thanos being stated on panel to appear to not be as durable as before. We have Thanos being stated to be mentally weak and unstable in that universe.. This would clearly have an effect on his ability to control his molecular structure and possibly stop such an attack. Whether he could or it would make a difference is irrelvant. All that matters is what happened to a weakened version of Thanos ISN'T applicable to what would happen to a fullpowered 616 Thanos. That is undisputable.
How?Eros tells him to hold still,marakkai blitzs him for the stun then BB runs up to him,and talks which should do a some damage or at least send him flying for the BFR.Sersi could also do some damage..
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There is evidence that the blast would hurt Thanos... because it actually killed Thanos and disintegrated him near completely. He had to resurrect himself. I don't know what percentage of "full power" you're placing Thanos at, and I personally couldn't care. I'm not going to argue with your imaginary "full-power" Thanos. And accordingly he wasn't mentally weak. He was mentally weak when he was subduable by Mantis and Cosmo. You don't have any narration stating that a full-powered Thanos was leaps and bounds over the recovered Thanos we saw fight Drax. I can throw non-evidence at your positions until kingdom come as well, y'know.
Harping on about how there is zero evidence that the same anti-matter mine would kill a "full-powered Thanos" is about as obvious as saying that there is zero evidence that the same anti-matter mine would not kill a "full-powered" Thanos. Fact that it utterly and completely disintegrated a recovered Thanos tends towards the liklihood that it'd have a good shot. Not the opposite. Appear? You're basing this on what you think Thanos appears to be? Here is what we know from on-panel fact: (i) I know Thanos was mentally locked down by Cosmo and Mantis. I also know Thanos recovered enough mental durability to be virtually immune. (ii) I know that Thanos couldn't even stand and was convulsing when he first jumped in that universe. I also know that he was standing and fighting by the time Drax attacked him. (iii) I know Thanos was barely capable of speaking when he first jumped in that universe. I also know that Thanos recovered, was intelligent and leading the team essentially by the time Drax lost his patience. I'm not sure how much more recovery you imagine Thanos was capable of.
I do know... that you have zero evidence that it was such a vast magnitude that it would compeltely banish any notion of the anti-matter mine working again. Also, until you prove that Thanos' matter manipulation capabilities extend to anti-matter, you can take your excuses to the wish-bin.
You proved my entire post in one THREE words of YOUR choosing.. "he recovered enough" .. you repeated that he had recovered enough a few times... Don't you get it... you just proved my point.... He WASN'T FULL RECOVRED is the point. At no point, did I argue he wsn't recovering.. at no point... What we are talking about is FULLY recovered versus.. RECOVERING slowly. What we do know is that he wasn't at 100% PERIOD. That ends the discussion right there. I don't need to prove a thing else because you just concede the point I've been making this whole time. You went rabbling on about how Thanos had recovered some becaues he did this and that... again.. at no point did I say he wasn't recovering.. That isn't the argument.. you needed to try to switch it to that out of desperation. What we know for 100% fact is that he hadn't fully recovered.. It doesn't matter if he was back at 95% or 50% ... what we do know is he wasn't at full power and that is all that is needed to say we DON'T KNOW what would happen if that same blast hit a full powered Thanos. That is undispuutable... unless of course you wanna provide ANY evidence that states he was back at full power and recovered TOTALLY. Him regaining enough to block two of the most powerful TP.. only speaks towards how badass he is.
Lastly, are you saying it was MY opinion that Thanos durability wasn't up to full power? I'm not saying that in the least.. I'm going by ON PANEL narration where the writer made it clear... When they theorized that Thanos durability wasn't up to par...The writer put that in there for a reason.. not by mistake.. He put that in there to make it clear to nit-wits like 753 that Thanos wasn't operating at normal levels... It's funny because the writer did so over and over again pointing he wasn't at full power and weakened.. yet there are still tools that think that doesn't matter and this could work on a normal thanos. We have no way to know that because we HAVE NEVER SEEN IT WORK ON A THANOS AT NORMAL LEVELS. WEAKENED DOESN'T COUNT.
Can you be "recovered enough" to be 100% or close to? Yes or no. The mincing of words isn't advancing your premises, much less stand on their own. I never said it was the argument. You must be referring to the conversation you were having with your imaginary friend. I don't care what we don't know. I care what is more likely. As does everybody else here. Stating that we don't know what would happen until it happens is belaboring the obvious. If you're not going to debate what is more likely, then you are wasting your breath. Where did the characters theorize that his durability wasn't up to par? Before Thanos got disintegrated on-panel or right at the moment Thanos got disintegrated on-panel?
You can imagine as much as you want that Thanos was so weak at that point despite his visible recovery that he had a far along way to go. Fact is, your unabashed criticisms about conclusive evidence can be rightly turned against you. You have zero evidence that the extra recovery would make a difference.
First, I'm still waiting on 753 to take the bet on whether this was stated on panel or not.. Do you wanna also take part in the bet and are saying it was never theorized that his durability wasn't up to par? Is that what you are saying? It was absolutly stated on panel and if you wanna take the same bet I'm down.
NO you cannot be recovered enough to be a 100% that goes against logic and the english language. If you are fully recovered.. you would say he's fully recovered... or he's 100%.. or he's back at full strength.. NONE of those words were choosen. When someone says... they have recovered enough strength to lift this or play.. that in no way shape or form indicates they are 100%. Close to it is irrelevant.. that still means he wasn't at full power.
I asked where it was stated so I could figure out whether it "theorized" before or during Thanos getting completely disintegrated on-panel. I have recovered enough to be 100%. <--- This is an inherently false statement? ... k. That illustrates to me the underpinnings of the logic you use. Your assertions are strangely making more sense to me now in a Bizarro-type way. Takes a while to adjust...
Also, thanks for providing zero evidence that whatever imaginary extra recovery Thanos would get would make a difference.
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