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Exactly.Its called a hyperbole.Its not truly infinite.

check my post

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that was early marvel when they had Odin as the god of the marvel universe, the old handbooks said Odin was omnipotent, Omniscient and all powerful

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check my post

Exactly.

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And when was it stated on panel that Juggs has infinite kinetic energy?

Thor's Godblast and Hulk took a dump on that statement. smile

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Thor's Godblast and Hulk took a dump on that statement.

no it didnt smile

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Thor's Godblast and Hulk took a dump on that statement.

That's why I asked that

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Odin was also said to be omnipotent and the Odinforce limitless.

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Originally posted by Colossus-Big C that was early marvel when they had Odin as the god of the marvel universe, the old handbooks said Odin was omnipotent, Omniscient and all powerful

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And when was it stated on panel that Juggs has infinite kinetic energy?

Not to mention that handbooks < on panel evidence.

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Not to mention that handbooks < on panel evidence.

writers > on panel > handbooks no?

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writers > on panel > handbooks no?

no.

On Panel>>>Writers>Handbooks.

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writers > on panel > handbooks no?

Writers if they directly comment in the comic as the narrator not interviews or stuff like that but then yes.

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I could have swore it merely slowed him and before he could push forward the concrete they were standing on gave way and he fell.

Nope. The Godblast both stopped Juggy, and pushed him back:

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THEN the concrete roof gave out.

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Wait War Hulk? Is this different from WWH? Because WWH merely slowed him down. You can see that it was Juggernaut slowly pushing WWH back.

War Hulk was a Horsemen of Apocalypse who'd been amped by Celestial tech. He was able to slow a charging Juggernaut's forward momentum to the point where he was barely moving at all:

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If Juggernaut's momentum was truly 'infinite' absolutely nothing would be able to slow/stop him.

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no.

On Panel>>>Writers>Handbooks.

Wow the guys that wrote the story < on panel? Good to know.

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Wow the guys that wrote the story < on panel? Good to know.

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Writers if they directly comment in the comic as the narrator not interviews or stuff like that but then yes.

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Wow the guys that wrote the story < on panel? Good to know.

What happens in the book is better evidence then an individual writers opinion.

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Nope. The Godblast both stopped, and pushed Juggy back:

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Do you have a scan of the very next page?

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War Hulk was a Horsemen of Apocalypse who'd been amped by Celestial tech. He was able to slow a charging Juggernaut's forward momentum to the point where he was barely moving at all:

If Juggernaut's momentum was truly 'infinite' absolutely nothing would be able to slow/stop him.

Ah, ok I see. Thank you for that. I kept hearing this brought up but never saw it and didn't know what the posters were talking about. thumb up

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Yeah, a writer's opinion that Juggy possesses 'infinite' kinetic energy, or that he cannot be stopped is utterly MEANINGLESS when we have on panel instances depicting Juggy's momentum being halted.

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I'm a bit confused now

Once you said Writers note (as narrator) > on panel showing
That was flash who was moving near speed of light while of you would have calculated the people he saved you would have come to the conclusion that his speed was > speed of light.

I was confused back then and I am now.

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Do you have a scan of the very next page?

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What we have in that scan is Juggy straining to regain his forward momentum (meaning he was still being held at bay by the GB), then the roof gives out. But the fact still remains that the GB stopped AND pushed back Juggy.

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Ah, ok I see. Thank you for that. I kept hearing this brought up but never saw it and didn't know what the posters were talking about.

I saw that you boldened 'Celestial tech'. Understand that said tech certainly didn't give Hulk >> infinite power. So my point still remains.

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On panel feats > a writers opinion > bios.

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What we have in that scan is Juggy straining to regain his forward momentum (meaning he was still being held at bay by the GB), then the roof gives out. But the fact still remains that the GB stopped AND pushed back Juggy.

lol juggernaut was standing perfectly still when the god blast hit him, when he started to move forward he started overpowering the god blast

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I'm a bit confused now

Once you said Writers note (as narrator) > on panel showing
That was flash who was moving near speed of light while of you would have calculated the people he saved you would have come to the conclusion that his speed was > speed of light.

I was confused back then and I am now.

That was a very particular case where the writer's narration of a particular event directly contradicted the numbers he also gave us in that same comic.

If you crunch the numbers provided, it is blatantly apparent that Flash was moving ridiculously faster than light -- but then that same writer stated that Flash was moving just under the speed of light. That's where the argument comes into play.

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