1. When? In Dark Avengers?
2. How does that prove anything? I've seen Thor and Superman lifting weights that looked like something Cap would be benching.
Yes it bad logic to use one character feats for another character. Yes there is a rule against it on the forums. Becuase character A can beat character C means that A can beat B, however that is many times not the case.
No becuase he has never display anything close to that level of speed before. Gorgon showed consisently crazy levels of speed neither of which Ares or Alex have consistently shown. SO what now Ares and his son can out react speedstirs, weave in and out of machine gun firer, deflect effortlessly countless bullets ect.
And you wanna trying to pretend I the one picking and choosing what I like and dislike? You taking both characters not on what they consistently shown but on one time feats which are well out side the consistently shown speed levels.
No this is only the case really with gods, and thats becuase you believe them to be on levels they simply are not in combat speed and reflexes. There not shown that fast because they arnt. Consistently Ares display nothing remotely impressive in speed.
Last edited by Dum Dum Dugan on Nov 28th, 2010 at 04:44 AM
We're arguing whether or not the stone star will work on Ares. The being closest to Ares physically that it has been used on resisted it's effects. Logic dictates that Ares will also resist the effects. Alex is not superior to Ares physically. The powers not having an effect we're not attributed to something Ares lacks. It's almost certainly because Alex is a "God".
It's a pretty simply concept. It'd be up to you to prove the stone stare will work at this point and not vise versa.
Lulz. Ares wasn't even a real character up until 4 years ago where he got his own miniseries, was fleshed out as a character, and then received an off panel power. Why the hell would there be a consistent showing of this level throughout his history?
A decade ago I would have laughed if you had told me Ares would rip open a hole through reality/space through sheer strength, and the X-men would be in awe of his power and resort to making a deal with Hela to stop him but it happened.
He just started out as a character. If and when he comes back, we'll once again see impressive feats sooner or later that people like you would argue are PIS.
P.S. I'm pretty sure Ares did react to a speedster or was at least able to harm one in his mini series. It was Hermes I believe.
Bottom line:
Ares' average speed is at least equivalent that to Alex. Alex is about as fast as Gorgon. No matter how much you b*tch about it, it isn't going to change.
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Last edited by Rage.Of.Olympus on Nov 28th, 2010 at 04:53 AM
bad I was referring to you trying to pretend Alex matchign Gorgon means Ares can in speed. I never stated anything or even implied that my last post had anything to do with stone stare. So you just went on about something I was not even argueing.
Nor was gorgon, in fact he has not been a real character untill pretty much the last two years if that and he shown consistent speed, comparable to his original appearances which took place several years ago.
It pis becuse he never displayed that level of speed prior or since even remotely close to it.
So Ares is now capable of weaving in an out of machine gun firer, deflecting machine gun firer easily, out reacting a speedstir ect? Despite the fact he only has a single impressive speed feat? are you serous?
I dont believe he did at all. I read it and don't recall that.
Again basing one time feats as the norm. Honestly sad part is you trying to act like I am the one being rediculous, but in fact it you.
Your using one time events as if there the norm/ Alex nor Ares has ever displayed that type of consistent speed, that gorgon has or even close to it. But becuase Alex had one good showing which was also his death agaisnt gorgon now means Ares has comparable speed to Gorgon is absurd.
Last edited by Dum Dum Dugan on Nov 28th, 2010 at 05:03 AM
perhaps not, I mean your entire arguement for Ares relies on another characters feat and whats worse is you take single feat as the norm while ignoring the character consistent showing.
Hey why dont we both post each characters speed feats and see which one consistently shown faster guess what it not gunna be ares........
Ares takes this 7/10. The stone stare isn't going to work at all. Like Rage said, Alex being Olympian prevented the stare from working. Gorgon has died, there's nothing for him to fear. It wasn't because their powers canceled each other out.
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