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carver9
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Superman could win several ways.

1. He could use speed and combo Drax to ko
2. He could beat Drax slowly by just avoiding his attacks and hammering him here and there.
3. He could just simply take the gem away and use it himself on Drax.


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Superman could win several ways.

1. He could use speed and combo Drax to ko
2. He could beat Drax slowly by just avoiding his attacks and hammering him here and there.
3. He could just simply take the gem away and use it himself on Drax.
None of those are going to happen.


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None of those are going to happen.




1. mostly won't happen (at least in the beginning). It could happen later in the fight though.

2. can only happen in a forum fight where Superman is fighting to his best ability. It usually won't happen in a comic though.

3. can and will most certainly happen if 1 or 2 don't happen. Superman WILL TAKE THE GEM AWAY in the very least. Whether he uses it on himself depends on how bad he is getting beat.

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1. mostly won't happen (at least in the beginning). It could happen later in the fight though.

2. can only happen in a forum fight where Superman is fighting to his best ability. It usually won't happen in a comic though.

3. can and will most certainly happen if 1 or 2 don't happen. Superman WILL TAKE THE GEM AWAY in the very least. Whether he uses it on himself depends on how bad he is getting beat.
Superman just doesn't Combo to KO. Period. It won't.

See this is why I hate the rules. The "best of ability" and the "in character" rules contridict each other

No he won't. Unless superman is going to reach through his stomach to get it. And I see it more likely that drax is punching through supes stomach then vica versa.


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Lol... trying to take the gem isn't a good idea. Champion got one shotted trying to take the gem.


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Lol... trying to take the gem isn't a good idea. Champion got one shotted trying to take the gem.
Course champion isn't the best example for a good feat. He hasn't been on the top of his game for the last...what? 30 years?


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Without the gem Drax loses hard.

With the gem Drax would give Superman a good fight.


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Superman just doesn't Combo to KO. Period. It won't.

See this is why I hate the rules. The "best of ability" and the "in character" rules contridict each other

No he won't. Unless superman is going to reach through his stomach to get it. And I see it more likely that drax is punching through supes stomach then vica versa.


Superman has comboed to ko before. Not in the beginning he hasn't though.

Not really, characters do things stupidly sometimes not because they are that stupid, but because the writer can't find a better way to create adversity. Look at all the genius things Superman has done and then the boneheaded things he has done. Surely those things contradict each other.
Superman doesn't always purposely get hit on purpose. Contradictions are always found in comics. That is why the rule was put into place, to counter this fact. Now if a character performs a certain way genuinely because of their intelligence or culture of belief then we can argue CIS.

My fault, I thought Drax's gem was originally on his forehead. How did Thor get the gem from him then?

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Without the gem Drax loses hard.

With the gem Drax would give Superman a good fight.


This.


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Superman has comboed to ko before. Not in the beginning he hasn't though.

Not really, characters do things stupidly sometimes not because they are that stupid, but because the writer can't find a better way to create adversity. Look at all the genius things Superman has done and then the boneheaded things he has done. Surely those things contradict each other.
Superman doesn't always purposely get hit on purpose. Contradictions are always found in comics. That is why the rule was put into place, to counter this fact. Now if a character performs a certain way genuinely because of their intelligence or culture of belief then we can argue CIS.

My fault, I thought Drax's gem was originally on his forehead. How did Thor get the gem from him then?


Thor punched him in the stomach and Drax coughed up the Gem, however Thor had prior knowledge that Drax thought the Power Gem was a jelly bean and swallowed it iirc.

This was also the insane Thor who was suffering from Madness and had the Valkyrie talking to him the whole time.

Drax is too dumb to use the power gem to it's full potential but he does tap it subconsciously, so if he is getting put down in a fight and needs to get stronger he will get stronger.

Problem with dumb Drax is things like when Maxam BFR'd him and he forgot he could fly, and he can get easily distracted.

If Superman knows where the Gem is then he could pull a Thor but if he doesn't this could be a very long and drawn out fight imo.

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Without the gem Drax loses hard.


Yes.

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With the gem Drax would give Superman a good fight.


No.

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And then they ran for their lives. He was no match for Thor even with the Gem. Once he lost it, they ran. Superman with his superior strength, durability, FAR FAR superior speed, and intelligence destroys Drax. With or without the Gem.


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Thor punched him in the stomach and Drax coughed up the Gem, however Thor had prior knowledge that Drax thought the Power Gem was a jelly bean and swallowed it iirc.

This was also the insane Thor who was suffering from Madness and had the Valkyrie talking to him the whole time.

Drax is too dumb to use the power gem to it's full potential but he does tap it subconsciously, so if he is getting put down in a fight and needs to get stronger he will get stronger.

Problem with dumb Drax is things like when Maxam BFR'd him and he forgot he could fly, and he can get easily distracted.

If Superman knows where the Gem is then he could pull a Thor but if he doesn't this could be a very long and drawn out fight imo.

Current Drax is most definitely not the moron that the Infinite Watch Drax was. He would have no problem tapping into the gem and releasing far more power than Superman is capable of dealing with.

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And then they ran for their lives. He was no match for Thor even with the Gem. Once he lost it, they ran. Superman with his superior strength, durability, FAR FAR superior speed, and intelligence destroys Drax. With or without the Gem.
Prior to this story he went rounds with Thor who was unable to defeat him. In this story he lost the gem pretty quickly but you can't just highlight a story as your only basis for an argument in which Thor was stomping everyone in his path save one, Thanos.


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There was epic jobbing in Blood and Thunder. I'm appalled that anyone even uses it. Also, Thor was in warrior madness, so he had an amp in addition to the gem. Which he wasn't fully exploiting anyway. If Gamora could make him cough up the gem with one blow, Supes can.


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Any fighter with an ounce of skill can beat Drax... basically the guy can't deal with anything beyond a brute strength contest.


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Any fighter with an ounce of skill can beat Drax... basically the guy can't deal with anything beyond a brute strength contest.


^ Co-signed. Drax is drain-bamaged.


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There was epic jobbing in Blood and Thunder. I'm appalled that anyone even uses it. Also, Thor was in warrior madness, so he had an amp in addition to the gem. Which he wasn't fully exploiting anyway. If Gamora could make him cough up the gem with one blow, Supes can.
It was stated it wasn't warrior madness at the end of the arc. Did you even read it ?


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Superman.

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There was epic jobbing in Blood and Thunder. I'm appalled that anyone even uses it. Also, Thor was in warrior madness, so he had an amp in addition to the gem. Which he wasn't fully exploiting anyway. If Gamora could make him cough up the gem with one blow, Supes can.


Heh.

And no, Thor was not in Warrior Madness which was made clear. It doesn't matter however. Warrior Madness wasn't a real amp up until later on in Thor's history.

That 10x thing was silly. There's a reason why we've never seen Thor enter that state since. Thor at 10x strength would ridiculously strong.


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Hmm. Can I see the scan where someone says it wasn't WM?

And I see you aren't disputing the jobbing. stick out tongue


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