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last I check it's made from Oan material, which has nothing to do with earth's metal. there was the instance where firestorm cannot transmute Oan robot because the Oan material happens to be alive


Yes.

Then no (unless you are talking about another instance, but I doubt it). Firestorm couldn't transmute a Green Lantern Robot, one of the faux green lanterns that Kyle created, because he was alive. That was Kyle's doing, not oan material


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While I'm not sure if Magneto would pull the win here, I don't think that demagnetizing the ring will protect it (and the user) from Magneto's powers. At his prime, he's capable of messing with the entire EM spectrum and related forces like gravity.

Don't get me wrong, a competent Lantern like Kilowag should be able to defend himself against Magneto's direct manipulation via willpower, but demagnetizing won't stop Mags.


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last I check it's made from Oan material, which has nothing to do with earth's metal. there was the instance where firestorm cannot transmute Oan robot because the Oan material happens to be alive


WTF...

I can't believe some of the things that are being mentioned right now. Doctor Poloris had Kyle basically beating the hell out of himself with his ring. He manipulated the ring and since it was connected to Hal hand, he was basically using it to make Kyle beat himself to sleep.

And let's not even bring up the fact that Kyle himself said that its not safe to fight Poloris because he can mess with their blood (including his) and he had his shields up the entire time.

Kilowag gets stomped to sh** by Mags. Magneto CAN take his ring and he probably could rip it into a million pieces if he tried.

If Magneto can control Mjlonir which IMO is a more powerful artifact than any GL ring, Mags shouldn't have a problem at all against that ring.

Magneto smiles the entire time while fight Kilo. Kilo needs a partner.


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WTF...

I can't believe some of the things that are being mentioned right now. Doctor Poloris had Kyle basically beating the hell out of himself with his ring. He manipulated the ring and since it was connected to Hal hand, he was basically using it to make Kyle beat himself to sleep.

And let's not even bring up the fact that Kyle himself said that its not safe to fight Poloris because he can mess with their blood (including his) and he had his shields up the entire time.

Kilowag gets stomped to sh** by Mags. Magneto CAN take his ring and he probably could rip it into a million pieces if he tried.

If Magneto can control Mjlonir which IMO is a more powerful artifact than any GL ring, Mags shouldn't have a problem at all against that ring.

Magneto smiles the entire time while fight Kilo. Kilo needs a partner.


Don't forget that Polaris was beaten by Hal numerous times and Kyle as well. Most of the time, Polaris is highly amped beyond Magneto base power.

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Don't forget that Polaris was beaten by Hal numerous times and Kyle as well. Most of the time, Polaris is highly amped beyond Magneto base power.


Poloris IS no Magneto... no matter how you look at it. Even with his amps he isn't Mags.

I never said that Hal couldn't beat Poloris... Poloris doesn't have Magneto versatility OR his shields. Given their fights (Poloris and GLs), Magneto should be able to pull a healthy majority.


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Don't forget that Polaris was beaten by Hal numerous times and Kyle as well. Most of the time, Polaris is highly amped beyond Magneto base power.
when was polaris ever amped beyond magnetos base power in these encounters?

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Poloris IS no Magneto... no matter how you look at it. Even with his amps he isn't Mags.

I never said that Hal couldn't beat Poloris... Poloris doesn't have Magneto versatility OR his shields. Given their fights (Poloris and GLs), Magneto should be able to pull a healthy majority.


What has Magneto done that Polaris hasnt?

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when was polaris ever amped beyond magnetos base power in these encounters?


When he was the entirety of the earths magnetic pole or when he was so powerful, he was causing damage to reality. Hal had to use PIS to defeat him.

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What has Magneto done that Polaris hasnt?
wormholes, force-fields that are yet to be breached and have consistently stood up to top tiers, manipulating tectonic plates and gigantic asteroids, exploding reality warping beings of pure energy (that wasnt EM energy), tanking multiple nuclear weapons, amping himself to take class 100s in h2h, dampening TP powers, nullifying gravity, molecular manipulation of matter, photon-level manipulation of EM energy, manipulating the bloodflow of his oponents and interfering with their nervous impulses (as far as I know DP only says he can do this and is yet to do it), manipulating metabolic activity in the cell and molecular levels and curing illnesses, pulling bullet big enough to destroy a planet moving away at multiples of c from the other end of the galaxy to earth, it goes on

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When he was the entirety of the earths magnetic pole or when he was so powerful, he was causing damage to reality. Hal had to use PIS to defeat him.
at the pole he did nothing that mags couldnt or hasnt reproduce.

what exactly was this event with damaging reality?

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wormholes, force-fields that are yet to be breached and have consistently stood up to top tiers, manipulating tectonic plates and gigantic asteroids, exploding reality warping beings of pure energy (that wasnt EM energy), tanking multiple nuclear weapons, amping himself to take class 100s in h2h, dampening TP powers, nullifying gravity, molecular manipulation of matter, photon-level manipulation of EM energy, manipulating the bloodflow of his oponents and interfering with their nervous impulses (as far as I know DP only says he can do this and is yet to do it), manipulating metabolic activity in the cell and molecular levels and curing illnesses, pulling bullet big enough to destroy a planet moving away at multiples of c from the other end of the galaxy to earth, it goes on


This pretty much sums it up. I know this isn't acceptable but wasn't Mags compared to a stable Phoenix?


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wormholes, force-fields that are yet to be breached and have consistently stood up to top tiers, manipulating tectonic plates and gigantic asteroids, exploding reality warping beings of pure energy (that wasnt EM energy), tanking multiple nuclear weapons, amping himself to take class 100s in h2h, dampening TP powers, nullifying gravity, molecular manipulation of matter, photon-level manipulation of EM energy, manipulating the bloodflow of his oponents and interfering with their nervous impulses (as far as I know DP only says he can do this and is yet to do it), manipulating metabolic activity in the cell and molecular levels and curing illnesses, pulling bullet big enough to destroy a planet moving away at multiples of c from the other end of the galaxy to earth, it goes on


Dr. Polaris has done most of that as well. Magneto has never taken on a team of top tiers like Polaris did. Flash, Superman, GL, etc... And the incident with the reality was back in Pre-Crisis, I believe.

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Dr. Polaris has done most of that as well. Magneto has never taken on a team of top tiers like Polaris did. Flash, Superman, GL, etc... And the incident with the reality was back in Pre-Crisis, I believe.


Magneto has taken on the avengers on more than one occassion. Him defeating Proteus alone is a feat that puts him above Poloris.

Proteus would stomp the JLA.


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Polaris would do the same to Polaris, especially if he's taping into the poles.

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Polaris would do the same to Polaris, especially if he's taping into the poles.
he probaly woudnt, the thing is that magneto has always been able to extend his power beyond magnetism and the EM spectre while DP hasnt. proteus wasnt made of EM energy

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If it's Polaris mucking with reality Polaris, I think he has the potential. It's all speculation, anyway. He was powerful enough to absorb the magnetic powers of a dimension. That is power.

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WTF...

I can't believe some of the things that are being mentioned right now. Doctor Poloris had Kyle basically beating the hell out of himself with his ring. He manipulated the ring and since it was connected to Hal hand, he was basically using it to make Kyle beat himself to sleep.

And let's not even bring up the fact that Kyle himself said that its not safe to fight Poloris because he can mess with their blood (including his) and he had his shields up the entire time.

Kilowag gets stomped to sh** by Mags. Magneto CAN take his ring and he probably could rip it into a million pieces if he tried.

If Magneto can control Mjlonir which IMO is a more powerful artifact than any GL ring, Mags shouldn't have a problem at all against that ring.

Magneto smiles the entire time while fight Kilo. Kilo needs a partner.


Context. You should know better by now not to try and pass off amped villains and PIS/bad writing as some sort of average.

Green Lanterns were dealing with Polaris before any of us were even born.


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Context. You should know better by now not to try and pass off amped villains and PIS/bad writing as some sort of average.

Green Lanterns were dealing with Polaris before any of us were even born.


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Kilowog gets the majority.


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