Bill didn't even have an alter ego until recently. The hammers transforming someone not born as a god, into a god is news to me, but you're welcome to provide examples...
Or, you could show examples of Bill using his "godly essence" without his hammer, like Thor has. Since, you know, Bill didn't have Thor's limitations of transforming back into a non god if the hammer is out of his grip.
The alter ego was introduced later. Before that, he was just Bill, with or without the hammer.
Thor without his hammer and enchantment turning him into Donald Blake still has his godly essence, while Bill doesn't. There's no proof of the hammer giving a user Godly essence, and wouldn't make sense if it did.
Based on what I've seen, it's my opinion that when someone wields Thor's power or a portion of it, they take upon themselves a part of what makes Thor himself. With the aid of Thor, they can briefly tap into this power. After all, the inscription on the hammer does say that whoever is worthy, will wield the power of Thor.
It looks like most of the scans make reference to the power being contained within the hammers, not focusing innate power within themselves through them.
If Odin needed to implant some of Thor's power directly into Bill, instead of into his hammer, how to explain Bill being powered up using Thor's hammer then? He didn't need Thor's essence within his body to operate Mjolnir the first time, did he?
But even if they gain essence via the hammer, or merge with it's essence, Thor's essence come from within...
Shouldn't that translate into Thor having some extra powers, or a much more powerful Godblast, precisely because of that innate power? E.g., he could actually channel his innate Godly essence into the hammer, in addition to the power's the hammer itself possesses. Bill or any other user shouldn't be able to do this, since without the hammer they're just mortals...
The details have never really been given so this is pretty much guess work. I'd guess that whenever someone becomes worthy, they automatically drain a portion of Thor's internal Godly Essence into their own body. Other than that, the only other actual explanation is that a set amount of Thor's essence lingers in Mjolnir, enough of it so as to power up a wielder to Thor's level. Thor's internal Godly Essence ranges into High End Skyfather/Abstract levels of power for whatever reason. Far above the power he usually has on tap so it's possible.
The God Blast basically already is Thor's essence + Mjolnir. It's just that it seems the higher you go, the more power Thor himself provides because Mjolnir has limits that are beneath that of Thor's Asgardian soul. Hence needing to reinforce it with the belt of strength during the scene with Exitar.
I'm trying to clarify where Thor's "Godly essence" comes into play with his hammer's powers, and how it separates him from other characters that don't have that essence. And also, for the purposes of this thread, trying to discern what the hammer itself can do, vs channeling Thor's innate abilities.
But you've pretty much given your opinions on the subject, it looks like.
Would the hammer have weather control on it's own, or is that something that's supplied through Thor? And do you believe the hammer can fire a "godblast" on it's own, from it's own stores of energies, without Thor channeling it?
One more thing: Didn't Odin imbue some of his power into the hammers as well? I could have sworn I read a story where it was claimed he did, but now I'm not certain...
Unfortunately it's hard to tell where Thor begins and Mjolnir ends. The very fact that the inscription on the hammer says you gain the power of Thor makes it complicated. Without Mjolnir, Thor possesses: All of his physical stats including immortality and so on, weather manipulation, energy projection and manipulation. Everything else I would assume is the hammer.
Thor's Godly Essence is what gives beings who are worthy of the power Thor's physical stats and so on I'd wager.
Thor can control the weather without Mjolnir. It's possible that weather control comes from merging with a part of Thor as the Odinson doesn't end with the physical world and has an intricate link to the elements. As recently pointed out, Thor's divinity transcends dimensions. Of course, perhaps weather controlling is something the hammer can do on it's own. Not really sure.
No, the hammer cannot fire the God Blast on it's own.
Yes, it was Odin who enchanted Mjolnir and Stormbreaker. The worthiness enchantment, the return enchantment, teleportation, time/space manipulation, bending the forces of the Universe, energy absorption, it's own vast internal reserves etc. all come from Odin imo.
Let me put it this way, it's by the grace of Odin that Thor and Mjolnir have the powers that they do.
On a related note, do you want to see all the abilities Thor has illustrated without the hammer?
"On a related note, do you want to see all the abilities Thor has illustrated without the hammer?"
Just show the scan of Thor eating an enchanted apple while sitting on his bed surrounded by half naked woman fauning over him. That was a pretty ubah power but then again I'm a nerd.
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