if prime had all of time trapper abilities, he would likely win. even without the armor. time trapper was powerful enough to create pocket universes on a whim.
...some time? maybe. but how long is that? Vanilla Thor went toe to toe with Zeus for months. RKT animating the destroyer technically isn't "alive" and would go on as long as the Odinforce holds up- and the Odinforce is infinite, for all practical purposes.
nope. Nothing less than the entirety of the Odinforce has ever physically put down the destroyer. (this happened twice, IIRC). Which makes sense, since the Odinforce forged it in the first place.
Absolutely not. Again, there is no material anywhere in the marvel universe more durable than the destroyer. It's been stated and shown on panel to be significantly stronger than primary adamantium- and THAT stuff is impossible to damage outside of molecular manipulation, per Marvel.
The only OTHER substance we know to be definitively stronger than primary adamantium is captain america's shield. RKT Vaporized that shield with a glance. It took ALL of his power to take out the destroyer.
Note that this was a concentrated magical attack by the same force that forged it. SBP does not have this ability, and since this version of the destroyer has Thor's hammer, energy assaults are worthless.
are there any feats anywhere of SBP OR the Aegis damaging anything as durable as the Destroyer has been shown to be? This works both ways.
"immunity to time manipulation" is a hell of a stretch. What's to stop RKT from simply using time manipulation on himself to hit speeds SBP can't match? nothing. Remember the Odin/Seth fight took place across every plane of existence simultaneously- moving in and out of spacetime. Entropy Aegis' "exotic powers" are pathetic next to the all father.
"everything RKT can throw at him" is an insane amount of power- Odin's power levels were enough to turn moons to dust, bust galaxies, and create new suns. "Vanilla" Thor's godforce is powerful enough to shatter celestial armor and kill galactus.
RKT's power output exceeds both of them by several orders of magnitude.
Entropy Aegis might be tough, but I have a REALLY hard time buying something that was built from the remains of an imperiex probe (that could be destroyed physically) could outclass Galactus' defenses, Celestial Armor, Cap's shield, and Thor's hammer.
and AGAIN, you seem to forget RKT is using the destroyer armor, meaning it's a hollow suit with no bones to "dislocate", and impossible to damage physically. I could tell you to go find scans of someone "dislocating" the destroyers arms, but I think we might be here a while. like forever.
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Not canon. And it's speculation that it was useless. It was lacerated and bleeding and he seemed to be nursing it in one panel... but there's no indication that it was completely useless in the off-panel fight with Hulk and Thing. Which is where he really lost it. A regular human soldier occupying the Destroyer armor killed Thor outright. It's the one time Thor was ever outright murdered by it. Destroyer armor has never exhibited visible increases in power due to its occupant's power level with the exceptions of it being filled by Tarene (who possessed the power of the Designate) and Odin amped with the Skyfathers' power.
Bottom-line, the Destroyer armor with its most weakest occupant ever, a mere human, was still far above an all-out Thor:
Uh, RKT didn't get owned by Wolverine. King Thor got his arm lacerated by Logan, who is <<< Rune King Thor. So lol at Squall owning anyone with his comments. Odinforce isn't just "magic", either. It enables the weilder to tap into mystical, cosmic, and divine energies.
And King Thor's eyebeams slagged Adamantium and Cap's shield.
Yes the Entropy Aegis easily found Superman who was being hidden by all of the Quintessence outside time and space, they was all taken back by its power.
Except prime was in severe pain due to kryptonite and harmed by red solar flames attacks by the legion. Aside from general facts know by both combatants, RKT has cosmic awarewareness. the armors are likely. Stalemate but RKT can cast spells unlike prime. Him by immune to magic doesn't take away Thor's option of teleporting a red sun into the battle field and out right bashing prime into it's core. Again the problem is removing the armor. If nothing it becomes a stalemate.
I still give the edge to RKT- it's pretty obvious Prime even with the Aegis doesn't have the powerset to take out this version of the destroyer. Best case for him, they pound on each other for centuries until someone wears down first.
However, I feel RKT is simply more versatile here in terms of power- higher upper level showings in terms of force, and a broader spectrum of abilities.
Could RKT simply absorb the power animating the Aegis armor? Odin was able to absorb Surtur into himself to end a fight, and Surtur is definitely skyfather level.
Could RKT use the hammer to absorb Prime's soul? It's been used to do so before.
Could RKT use matter manipulation to imprison Prime in a mile wide sphere of adamantium, uru, or whatever the destroyer is made out of, immobilizing him?
Those are hard questions with no clear cut answer, but they're possibilities that exist on one side here, and not the other.
Explain how you kill the destroyer via blitz, when you can't even scratch it physically.
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