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srankmissingnin
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Originally posted by Gecko4lif
Literally all of that is supposition.

Prove your assertions.


Literally none of what I said that is supposition.

We saw Hulk punch Wolverine seven times in the panels.

Comics panels are vignettes or montages, capturing snap shots of moments from a larger event.

From the moment Hulk grabbed Wolverine, the conversation took me 34 seconds to read, speaking at a normal rate.

Unless Hulk only throws one punch ever five second, something his happening in between the panels, which we already know is happening... because it's a comic... and that is always the case


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Originally posted by srankmissingnin
We saw Hulk punch Wolverine seven times in the panels.

Indeed.

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From the moment Hulk grabbed Wolverine, the conversation took me 34 seconds to read, speaking at a normal rate.

Thats strange. You read quite slow. Not to mention you generally speak faster when fighting. except when your out of breathe then of course you speak slower.

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Unless Hulk only throws one punch ever five second, something his happening in between the panels, which we already know is happening... because it's a comic... and that is always the case

Which your basing off of you reading slow

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Originally posted by Gecko4lif
Indeed.


Thats strange. You read quite slow. Not to mention you generally speak faster when fighting. except when your out of breathe then of course you speak slower.


Which your basing off of you reading slow


Reading it would only take a few seconds, but I didn't read it, I spoke it, out loud and timed it the time it took, because that is what we are talking about. 34 seconds with a normal cadence, not trying to speed up nor slow down the conversation for my own means. I could easily slow that shit down to a minute without it sounding unnatural if I wanted to.


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The Muramasa claws nullify one of Hulk's main attributes against Wolverine.

I'd give Wolverine the edge.

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Originally posted by srankmissingnin
That vignette of Wolverine fighting the Hulk was 35-40 seconds of conversation while the two of them wailed at each other. We saw snap shots of the exchange, Hulk landed around seven punches on Wolverine on the panels we did see, and almost assuredly that again in between the panels. With Muramasa claws, Hulk would have been blind during the exchange, and after Wolverine cut into his forearm initially, Hulk would have no choice but to drop Wolverine since he would have been unable to hold him with his radial artery and the tendons severed. Hulk would have died. It's not even a matter of debate. He would have gone into shock, then passed out in under a minute.


In between panels... Then I declare any feat of wolverine... Off panel cyclops came in and defeated all wolverines enemies for him. And when it pans back wolverine stands there the victor...

Your argument is stupid. If it didn't happen on panel it didn't happen period.


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In between panels... Then I declare any feat of wolverine... Off panel cyclops came in and defeated all wolverines enemies for him. And when it pans back wolverine stands there the victor...

Your argument is stupid. If it didn't happen on panel it didn't happen period.


How many visual communication and sequential arts classes have you taken? I have a BA in Fine Arts and in two years I will have one in Illustration. Do you really want to get into an argument about the essential qualities of comic art with someone who has been formally educated in it from two of the finest art Universities in North America? Sequential story telling is in essence a montage, you saw a snap shot of Wolverine and Hulk punching each other. You know what happened in between those panels of them punching each other? They punched each other. You don't need a formal education to figure that out, you just need to not be an idiot. cool


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While the Muramasa claws may nullify Hulk's ability to heal wounds, his HF is as massive as his body. Considering his extradimensional source of power is it possible his HF, reading those injured parts of his body as 'gone', wouldn't just grow new tissue over the unhealable wounds?

After what Vector or, The End (IIRC) Hulk went through, and I know his HF kept him alive, but he's lost massive amounts of his physique before without dying.

Aside from the eye or a neck shot, unless the Muramasa blades make Wolverine claws sharper, how deep can he cut at any point in time? He may not sever everything in Hulks arm.

If Hulk really was holding back then and not now a thunderclap and that big sword on his back could be trouble for Wolverine.

I'd vote Hulk on this.

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Thunder clap. Then stomp on wolvies skull till mush

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Assuming Wolverine lands the same hits he landed in that original mini only with Muramasa claws, Hulk would have died.
elixir tried that


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How many visual communication and sequential arts classes have you taken? I have a BA in Fine Arts and in two years I will have one in Illustration. Do you really want to get into an argument about the essential qualities of comic art with someone who has been formally educated in it from two of the finest art Universities in North America? Sequential story telling is in essence a montage, you saw a snap shot of Wolverine and Hulk punching each other. You know what happened in between those panels of them punching each other? They punched each other. You don't need a formal education to figure that out, you just need to not be an idiot. cool


I really couldn't care what you think when you arent the writer. You act like the final word when you aren't even the first. You assume things that you can't prove. If anyone's actin like an idiot.... I'd look to the guy thyself making things up to suit his argument rather than going by what he sees.


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"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."

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Originally posted by psycho gundam
elixir tried that


Elixir temporary over loaded Hulk's healing factor by super charging it. That isn't what the Muramasa does.


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the end result was the same.

the brain scrambling from repeated punches happens again.


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I really couldn't care what you think when you arent the writer. You ac like the final word when you aren't even the first.


roll eyes (sarcastic)

Wolverine and Hulk were punching and slashing each other, the panels shown are frozen points in time that represent fractions of a second of an exchange that lasted upwards of 40 seconds. What do you think was happening in between the panels, nothing? What happened is they were fighting. It's not really up for debate. You want to know what Rockey was doing in the rest of the months not shown in the two minute training montage? He was training. The world must be a scary and confusing place for someone like you. So sad.


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the end result was the same.

the brain scrambling from repeated punches happens again.


Yeah, no.

Elixir briefly overloaded Hulk's healing factor, and then his healing factor started up again. The Muramasa blade creates wounds that don't heal, not wounds that don't heal for a few seconds, then the Hulk's healing factor will adept and heal. Not even remotely similar.


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Hmmm, the Muramasa blade may not work on Hulk for long. If he can fight transmutation, where I'm assuming Wolverine and Sabertooth can't, then the Muramasa blade may only slow him down.

A wound that won't heal may as well be a dead/unhealthy area to Hulk that his body heals around.

Now I'm definitely leaning towards Hulk.

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roll eyes (sarcastic)

Wolverine and Hulk were punching and slashing each other, the panels shown are frozen points in time that represent fractions of a second of an exchange that lasted upwards of 40 seconds. What do you think was happening in between the panels, nothing? What happened is they were fighting. It's not really up for debate. You want to know what Rockey was doing in the rest of the months not shown in the two minute training montage? He was training. The world must be a scary and confusing place for someone like you. So sad.


Really? Says the guy that acts like having a bachelors degree makes you a resource on the subject? Lol. If anything I laugh at your feeble arguments. And all you have is a bachelors in writing? Wow. I'm supposed to be impressed? Lol. I doubt your level of education matches mine, although our fields are different. But that has nothing to do with the subject matter Which is simply, you cannot PROVE your argument. All that you are doing is to assume. And when you assume.... You are making an ass out of u an me. Lol. While thi may be all seriousness to you child. This is all fun to me. Btw. Since you want to throw around education belts. Masters and CPA. I'm an auditor what do you do. Lol.


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the murasama blade working on hulk just as well as it works on wolverine/sabretooth is already an uncertainty


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Really? Says the guy that acts like having a bachelors degree makes you a resource on the subject? Lol. If anything I laugh at your feeble arguments. And all you have is a bachelors in writing? Wow. I'm supposed to be impressed? Lol. I doubt your level of education matches mine, although our fields are different. But that has nothing to do with the subject matter Which is simply, you cannot PROVE your argument. All that you are doing is to assume. And when you assume.... You are making an ass out of u an me. Lol. While thi may be all seriousness to you child. This is all fun to me. Btw. Since you want to throw around education belts. Masters and CPA. I'm an auditor what do you do. Lol.


What? I don't think you read my posts, I'm not a writer, I'm an artist. I study visual communication and sequential story telling. To put it bluntly, I study comic book art. When you are reading a comic, you are seeing a handful of panels that represent a larger event, and in between those panels either absolutely nothing is happening or more of the same is happening, because if it was something different there would be a panel for that. That isn't my opinion of sequential art, that is the very definition and purpose of sequential art.

I do what all artists do, I draw naked ladies and Batman, and make almost no money doing it. embarrasment


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Originally posted by psycho gundam
the murasama blade working on hulk just as well as it works on wolverine/sabretooth is already an uncertainty


I might be... if you didn't know Daken already trashed Skaar with the Muramasa claws.


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