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I think that it can be argued that his initial speed in that scan could be less than the top speed that he would attain at further distance. You know the 0-60 rule.


0-60 rule?

isn't it just called, 'acceleration'?


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That Perez/Busiek Avengers era was amazing. I wish they could move back in that direction.


Agreed. I'm almost sure the comic is Avengers: Supreme Justice.


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I think that it can be argued that his initial speed in that scan could be less than the top speed that he would attain at further distance. You know the 0-60 rule.
Yeah. I just go by the art. Tony was looking like a streak of light before and after the hammer swatted him. So I'd think he was going pretty fast.


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Yeah. I just go by the art. Tony was looking like a streak of light before and after the hammer swatted him. So I'd think he was going pretty fast.


The weird thing is that Thor swatted Tony to his left, but he flew off to his right.

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0-60 rule?

isn't it just called, 'acceleration'?



I heard about the rule on the news years ago lol, so I saw a perfect opening to exercise the saying.


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Yeah. I just go by the art. Tony was looking like a streak of light before and after the hammer swatted him. So I'd think he was going pretty fast.
Tony was about 60feet away before the blitz so I would that he reached bullet speed tops, which is still fast. But Thor has much better feats to say that he could definitely respond to a fast straight-dumb attack from 30 or more feet away (probably even light speed). But changing directions based off what is being seen of Thor is much different. Also a speedblitz is not necessarily a bull rush (a straight dumb attack). I'm thinking the OP meant a complex fast attack where the attacker is attacking from all angles vs. just bull rushing straight into Thor from more than 30ft away.


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The weird thing is that Thor swatted Tony to his left, but he flew off to his right.

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It makes perfect sense. You're weird!


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Yes. He's had SS blitz him before as well as other very fast characters.

So when you see the Mongoose nonsense , just remember what = PIS .
SS combat speed has never really impressed me in terms of rapid fire aggression. So if his initial WTF I CAME AT WARPSPEED RAPE YOU attack fails his speed tends to drop drastically in terms of focusing on a speedblitzing attack.

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depends on which streak is IM coming to Thor and which is away...

because the higher streak is going upwards I assume it is the away streak, which means the direction away is weird.


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Superman has pretty insane combat speed and uses his powers in a way that would be difficult for most HH to defend against when he uses his speed. Initially I don't think that thor would be capable of responding to that type of speedblitz (especially not immediately). A linear one? Sure. One where supes all out kung-fu assaults him--unlikely.

Is this an insta-win? No, but it's certainly a dangerous technique.

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Don't think he will survive something like this either.

http://m1143.photobucket.com/albumv...r.jpg.html?o=10


Are you serious.

We know that supes is capable of reacting at lightspeed at least, and thor shouldn't be far behind imo, but never has anyone (including you) proved that a DBZ character is capable of lightspeed travel, reaction, or combat, much less faster. So to supes and thor, they're statues. Especially that version of Goku.

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carver is hyping up Dragonball again? Nothing has change in the new year


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carver is hyping up Dragonball again? Nothing has change in the new year


Agreed lol. I like it how superman was doing the exact same thing in the scan as Goku, but has consistent refs to gauge the speed that he's capable of moving at, but somehow thor can react to him, but not Goku....

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Thor would not be able to deal with the speed of that type of character. His speed is decent... for a brick but it isn't on par with a speedster.

And no, being able to fight Silver Surfer is not evidence that he is.

Thor might be able to react to a single pounce/attack from a character with significant speed but he doesn't operate on a level that allows him to deal with someone unloading on him in speedster fashion. You're talking about a guy that was getting the tar beat out of him by the friggin Thunderbolts. erm


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Well considering BRB who has the same powers was able to react to and fight against Surfer at massively FTL speeds in Godhunter I'd say he could take an attempted speedblitz by Superman.


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http://i1096.photobucket.com/albums...pg?t=1295073974

What comic is this from?


If you haven't already found it, that was Avengers #5, 3rd vol from 1998 (Busiek's run).

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NO thor cant react to a speedblitz from superman level, Thor got blitzed by Gladiator, Hyperion, and by SS, Masterson Thor got blitzed by spider-man, wolverine was too fast for thor to the point thor had to use his lightning as against spider-man, and while wolverine is very fast he is still not comming close to superman level speed so basically we got a hell of a lot cases when Thor couldnt react to speedblitzing so i am asking myself and you why the hell is it still a question? this case is very clear that Thor while being strong and versatile is taking a big fall at speed when facing all kind of superman clowns and even some streets

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Not seen any evidence of Thor being able to take a speedblitz from an FTL capable character.

Surfer engages in battle, rather than attempting to blitz people. That's why he only blitzes multiple targets (ie blitzing whole armadas), rather than a single foe.

Then again, he does have an instance of taking the piss out of Deathurge(?) by blasting and circling him (and monologueing him) at FTL.


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I don't think I've ever seen Thor speedblock or counterblitz. Ever. The only multiple-image shot of Thor I can recall is when he dug a furrow around a volcano. So I'm gonna say, if a strong-enough, speedblitzing opponent does get in close, if he can get through/bypass Thor's initial defense, Thor's done. On the other hand, Thor has successfully blocked bullrush or rapid ranged attacks, so getting in close won't be easy.

Of course, this also depends on what the story demands.


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this is my argument for thor, mjolnir is not a power ring, a super computer, or a sentient weapon. Its simply a magic hammer. Now if thor can swing mjolnir ftl a multiple targets then he himself must have uber reflexes since he has enough reaction time feats to back it up.


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