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Originally posted by Prep-Man
I never said Marvel didn't have quality titles. They have some of the best street levelers runs. What I was referring to was cosmic/mystical types.

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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Abnett/Lanning.

Claremont with the Dark Phoenix.

I guess MArvel don't have a spin-off like Vertigo where they can give their writers free rein to do all their weird stuff, so there IS that...

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Originally posted by Prep-Man
Again, abstract/godly types. Most of those are top tiers.

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Originally posted by Prep-Man
I never said Marvel didn't have quality titles. They have some of the best street levelers runs. What I was referring to was cosmic/mystical types.

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Originally posted by Existere
Marvel has a different approach to the cosmic, so it's not a black and white comparison

Fantastic Four has consistently been one of the best comics on the market for some time now, and they have been exploring the edges of the Marvel cosmic scene ever since their inception with Stan the Man. The book has a strong sci-fi tone though, and is very angled around individual endeavor with a tone of exploration and adventure - some would say this is often the case with Marvel titles when compared to DC, but your mileage may vary. It's still really good stuff, but very much a different sub-genre than Sandman/Lucifer, Swamp Thing, etc.

Planetary was a critically acclaimed title owned by DC, but its strongest influences lay in Fantastic Four, and the book paid quite a bit of homage to the work and influence Marvel has had on that take on the cosmic scene.

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Originally posted by Existere
Marvel has a different approach to the cosmic, so it's not a black and white comparison

Fantastic Four has consistently been one of the best comics on the market for some time now, and they have been exploring the edges of the Marvel cosmic scene ever since their inception with Stan the Man. The book has a strong sci-fi tone though, and is very angled around individual endeavor with a tone of exploration and adventure - some would say this is often the case with Marvel titles when compared to DC, but your mileage may vary. It's still really good stuff, but very much a different sub-genre than Sandman/Lucifer, Swamp Thing, etc.

Planetary was a critically acclaimed title owned by DC, but its strongest influences lay in Fantastic Four, and the book paid quite a bit of homage to the work and influence Marvel has had on that take on the cosmic scene.

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Originally posted by Prep-Man
Again, abstract/godly types. Most of those are top tiers.

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Originally posted by Existere
DC places you in the seat of the god, Marvel places you in the seat of the explorer who brushes with the divine. It's not always true, but it's pretty typical of the companies. If you want to look to the Marvel cosmic scene, it'll more often than not be through the lens of a 'top tier'.

Have you ever read Silver Surfer: Requiem?

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Originally posted by Raptor22
so ur against crack and my bad jokes. I wouldnt want to live under ur dictatorship. We would probably have to worship u AND Aquaman.

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Originally posted by Prep-Man
I've only read the first issue. I prefer SS's 90's title to that one.

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Originally posted by Existere
Well... your loss, I guess.

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Originally posted by Prep-Man
Did you enjoy his 90's title?

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Originally posted by Prep-Man
I don't know, man. DC has had some of the BEST writers in the industry crafting their cosmic/mystical mythos. From Sandman (Giaman), Alan Moore, Mike Carey, and now Scott Snyder.

Is there any writer/series in Marvel who wrote a critically acclaimed series like Sandman or Swamp Thing?

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Originally posted by JakeTheBank yeah this is a hard choice but as much of a dc fan that I am I would choose both why? Well marvel is great at having more characters you can relate to and every good hero needs a greater protagonist and marvels villains dont dissapoint. heck they can grab a boring old powerhouse like hulk and make him complex and relatable(hulk the end) and you feel for his turmoils unlike thor.
Marvel has likewise had some of the best writers in the industry. also marvel has put out more movies with better fan responses.

Dc has there great storylines too and really complex but ultimatly the only characters imo that are relevent is batman and superman. They need to push there other characters more. and another problem with dc is the lame character names and illustrations that feel like they havn't modernize enough just look at amazo hes design screams 50's future space men design. They need to have freasher names and designs. Storywise its a mix bag as some of there older stuff like superman are bad to look at heck back then superman only villian was lex. BUT dc had way better story and crossovers within their mix bags and as of lately it seems they are pushing to make them more modernize.
dc best:
superman vs. aliens, mohammad ali, predator, terminator, marvel, and darkhorse.
best stories:batman beatles missing clues, superman godfall, superman beyond, infinite crisis stories , crisis on two earth, death and reign of supermen,imperiex wars and kingdom come. see thats the problem for me only bats and supes.

marvel best stories: hulk the end, maxium carnage, what ifs,earth x, x-men phenox saga,venom sega, marvel zombies,vampires and wolf, zombies vs. evil dead, days of future past, onslaught saga,civil war, 2099's, and death of the superheros. overall i like spiderman the most. although i would like to be proved wrong and hear good arguments for dc.

And yes, Marvel has had plenty of critically acclaimed series.

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Originally posted by Existere true
DC places you in the seat of the god, Marvel places you in the seat of the explorer who brushes with the divine. It's not always true, but it's pretty typical of the companies. If you want to look to the Marvel cosmic scene, it'll more often than not be through the lens of a 'top tier'.

Have you ever read Silver Surfer: Requiem?

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Originally posted by Prep-Man
Nah, it's the quality of the characters as well. I don't see say the Celestials or Galactus having their own series. because they are cardboard personalities. Just like Marvel women. DC has a good number of female titles, while Marvel only has 1.