Rune King Thor has absolutely no hype from comics... I don't think anyone in the series even said he was mildly powerful.
He's just got the two feats of completely obliterating two Skyfather level beings like nothing. And the feat against the Those Who Sit Above in Shadows
No. The Imp-Queen helped Superman resurrect Lois. This was explicitly stated. And none of the other Dynasty members recreated Krypton--it was alluded to that Hourman 1M did.
Solaris was already nearly dead when Prime crushed it. He may HAVE needed the ring, who knows?
Considering the rest of the Superman Dynasty (inc. Superman 1M) retained their weakness to kryptonite, even after being amped by Prime, there's no reason to assume Prime himself had evolved immunity to it... That'd actually be an illogical deduction, tbh.
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Only first is correct and I was wrong about it. Taking help from an IMP though is nothing to be shamed about when you are powering them in the first place.
Doesn't mean he needed it. We've seen all star superman beat solaris who is nowhere near prime level.
He was needed to be rescued by kryptonite poisoning the sun while he was in sleep.
Hardly makes any difference. Solaris of future was totally spent of power when prime crushed him. Other than being bigger than size he had no other advantage over solaris of AS who just before getting bitchslapped by superman killed a baby sun eater. Calling that prime NEEDED gl ring to beat solaris is laughable.
Right, Solaris was nearly dead. Literally ANYONE could have beaten him at that point. So while I can agree that Prime probably didn't 'need' the GL ring (it was probably just the quickest/easiest means at his disposal), it still wouldn't have been very impressive at all if he would have beaten Solaris under his own power.
Sadly, being the power source for the entire Superman Dynasty is by far the best 'feat' Prime acquired. I absolutely love the character, though.
^ Yeah, considering the 5-D imp-Superman still primarily resides in the 5th dimension, I think it's safe to say that he's not powered by Prime--as there is no Super Sun in the 5th dimension. That powerup was clearly intended for the Superman/woman who guards earth.
I'm implying that prime powered up entire superman dynasty as told clearly in DC1M, ASS and where superman of 5th dimension says it. Superman dynasty was the protector of entire universe as shown in Superman 712 IIRC.
If you're under the impression that Prime/the Super Sun powers every single member of the Superman Squad, ever, then you're misinformed. Prime didn't even return to earth until the 700th century, therefore ANY Supermen who existed before that era wouldn't be privy to the Super Sun's amp (which is why mainstream Superman wasn't amped by it, etc.) (please log in to view the image)
Also, there is NO evidence that the Super Sun powers 5th dimensional Supermen either. As S1M demonstrated multiple times, if he is away from the Super Sun for more than a few days, he becomes drastically weakened--to the point that he can't even fly. The 5-D Superman, however, LIVES in the 5th dimension, where there is NO Super Sun to be found: (please log in to view the image)
If he relied on it as a power source, surely he'd stay close to it like S1M does, no? Like I said, the Super Sun's amp was meant solely for the Superman who protects earth--which makes sense.
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you got busted just face the facts, he needed help to ressurect lois alone, odin was able to ressurect planets of people and king thor is even greater
solaris was all beaten up and smoked and still he used the GL ring to finish off a beat up solaris, why did he use the ring then? i am not playing guessing games like you and i am not speculating like you do, i am going with feats and facts and the facts are golden prime used the GL ring to destroy a beat up solaris that means he needed it
solaris in all star superman was a baby solaris it was no where near the powers it gained during the 853 centery universe, all star superman is the past when solaris only started developing while the 853 centery is its peak after all the time it got stronger and stronger
solaris was trying to send kryptonite into the sun and it was suppose to kill golden prime its as easy as it is.
i just love the fact you got busted and owned but you still trying to somehow get out of this
I don't think he powered everyone from his dynasty untill he returned to earth either. But after he returned he made a pact that he would give powers to his dynasty WHICH as the marriage with the 5-d queen included the 5-d superman. Again in ASS 5-d superman mentions how prime is the most powerful being in the superman dynasty. Even in the scan which you presented mentioned that he gave the power to them which he obtained from beyond the space-time and ADMINISTERED not distributed from the super sun. aS FOR Kal kent, his powers beins to fade out of earth's solar system let alone being in the past
Actually, 5-d Superman was shown in the superman squad along with Titano 1M alongside several members of superman dynasty who guarded entire galaxy and beyond. If Superman 1M's amp begins to ebb from being out of the solar system and we know that prime gave power to entire superman dynasty in 853'rd century, how did they get powers outside of the solar system of earth? The answer is simple, only superman 1M was dependent on the super sun for his amp, not all the members of superman dynasty which included 5-d superman.
As shown in the ASS the 5-d superman was also the descendent of the mainstream superman and he came from a time when prime became the leader of the Superman squad which is likely to be after DC one million. There is no logical reasoning to say that he wasn't powered up by prime unless we are using the notion that prime could only give powers through super sun.
Only one fact and it has context. Lois was alluded to be given the same powers as prime in her new body. ABC logic and feats aren't transferrable to characters.
He needed a gl ring so much that he wsn't even shown to be present in the scan where he crushed solaris. Solaris was an insect to him which he brushed away with the most efficient and quick manner posiible.
Guess what, when prime crushed solaris he was near dead and when all star superman crushed solaris he was still powerful enough to kill a baby sun eater. If we go by your theory than we reach at the conclusion that ASS is more powerful than prime, which is shown as false in the comics.
By poisoning the sun while he was asleep. Don't leave the context behind.
You mean being incorrect about one fact. Your antics are amusing though. Now hush child, elders are speaking.
Even though it was explicitly stated (multiple times) that S1M receives his amp directly from the Super Sun, you're assuming that Prime amped the other Supermen (inc. the the 5-D Superman) by other means that were never once mentioned? I can't accept that. The Super Sun is the key--without it there was NO amp. That much was made crystal clear numerous times.
And just so you know, while Titano WAS part of the Superman Squad, he has nothing to do with Superman's galaxy--he guards the Gorilla Galaxy: (please log in to view the image)
Prime amped the Superman of earth (post 700th century)--not the protector of monkeys.
Furthermore, not all the members of the Superman Squad are descendants of Superman. In fact, MANY of them have no ties to Superman whatsoever: (please log in to view the image)
Does Prime amp them too? How far are we going to take this?
As I said above, the ONLY method that was ever mentioned in regard to how Prime amped his underlings was through the Super Sun. That's it. Assuming he was amping a 5-D being through some cross-dimensional means that were never even alluded to is... Not entirely logical.
Last edited by Galan007 on May 2nd, 2012 at 03:35 PM
So you think that after prime left the sun and became the leader of superman dynasty as shown in ASS, super-sun still powered Kal kent? Again prime made the pact to give powers to his descendents gained from the edge of time and space. 5-d superman is a descendent of superman prime, he's in superman squad and he is shown and alluded as being less powerful than prime. Why are we assuming that there was only one descendent of superman in 853rd century when 5-d superman is also one of his descendent.
I expected better from you galan, I read comics. Where did I say that prime amped everyone from superman squad? I only produced that scan to show that superman dynasty wasn't restricted to earth's solar system which is the only place where SM1M recieves his amp from prime. Now if we take that as consideration that prime can only amp his descendents within the solar system, they wouldn't be amped. But we know that they were amped according to the pact prime made with the descendents.
Largely irrelevant, they aren't descendents of prime.
For SM1M I agree, but all the descendents as shown in Superman 708, not possible in the least. Just answer some of my questions galan and I would concede here. Was 5-d superman a descendent of prime? Did prime made a pact with his descendents that he would amp them? Were there descendents of superman who lived outside of earth's solar system which according to SM1M the outer limit where super sun amps him?
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