It's probably something taken out of context. It usually is the case when it comes to Superman fans. The fact is Hal Jordan and Batman alone are peers to Superman when it comes to willpower. No character in dc sits a top the mountain with anything definitive.
It's like me using one issue of the jla where Martian Manhunter is described as the most powerful member but having another issue cite someone else as the most powerful. Then you could even take it a step further. How do you define powerful.
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Oh and don't take me wrong Quan.
I believe a Multiversal abstract entity should win vs a Herald, but a Herald loosing a will battle vs a multiversal abastract entity with infinite will is not a bad showing at all.
Batman's willpower is explicitly not as great as Superman's, in Emperor Joker at least.
Batman's mind was shattered by the tortures he endured at the hands of the Joker, incoherent and helpless. Superman told the Spectre to take all of Batman's anguish, all of his mental pain, and place it inside himself. Superman needless to say didn't become a babbling douche like Batman was.
Power level has nothing to do with willpower. Nothing. Anyone with considerable willpower alone takes out the characters raw power. The fact you believe a hh has anything to do with willpower is preposterous.
I also don't make spite threads.
Their power levels have nothing to do with a forum battle with regards to willpower alone. And since when did I say losing in a forum battle is a bad showing ? It's not even a showing at all. It's an opinion.
That's why I used the examples I did. In certain showings it seems other characters are more powerful than others. One could make a case for Superman over Batman but my point was it's not a definitive one. One could argue either way. Being on another level means Batman's will simply isn't on the level Superman's is. That varies from story to story I believe. I'd like to read through the arc myself to get the entire story. A scan here or there usually doesn't tell the entire story. It might be accurate but I'd rather read the entire arc for myself to know for sure.
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No one is saying this is spite which is funny, because this is the will of a Multiversal abstract entity with known infinite will vs Superman's will. Is actually much better.
And I know you consider his will power high otherwise You wouldn't have started this thread.
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I would like you to explain to me why an abstract's will should be greater than someone else's. I mean I am all for it since Thanos beat Eternity via will power before. But I am curious as to hear more of this rationale.
You think Lucifer wins. No need to explain it away. Just say Lucifer wins and move on.