Based on what? Weren't you the one claiming Superman could beat 100,000 Thors because he was so fast? Exactly what combat speed feats from CM put him on par with Superman? I know both characters quite well so I'll answer that for you, it's not even close.
Travel speed or combat speed there is ZERO WAYS to make an argument CM is even close to Superman.
I guess I was putting too much stock into the Justice books when Captain Marvel had to race down the infected Flash, and how no one else could do it which included Superman. I guess I was thinking that that Cap was the same as the regular Cap.
Seen a few times where Cap and Supes had a disagreement and slugged it out..... Cap had the upper hand several times before and stopped, like the writer had him thinking "I"m really fighting Superman, my friend? Maybe I should stop? etc......."
Seen in comics and even in animation.
I'm hoping teenage hormones and angst cancel out his hesitation to make it more interesting..
Please, actually attempt to read my entire argument in the future. They are in different companies, Thor gets no power scaling rights to Superman at all.
CM is another story. He doesn't have the laundry list of feats, but he does have history, statements, and handbooks/guidebooks that put him on par with Superman--while those same handbooks put Diana and J'onn lower than Superman--in both strength and speed, so you know its making a conscious distinction in levels. Besides this I'm pretty sure CM has a time suspension feat or two as well.
That's what I was talking about when I referred to flight speed.
Anyway, Superman wins this thread.
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Last edited by CosmicComet on Aug 5th, 2012 at 04:14 PM
On Cap, CC's right.. He has feats that prove he's a top end speedster.
Debating whether he's faster than Superman (And the scan here from an early Cap story, isn't conclusive, imo..), doesn't change the fact he's faster than most...
Many here don't even discuss one of his most cheap powers other than the speed one.
It's his super breath.
He can freeze herald level beings instantly. Of course they can eventually break out but this creates A HUGE ASS speed difference the moment he does it. Superman can stop CM momentarily everytime and anytime he wants with the freeze breath.
Superman can also multi task with the freeze breath.
He can punch, kick, hv blast, and maneuver all while freezing breathing.