On panel, he was shown stretching for hundreds of miles. On panel he was shown to have a power not even the Human Torch had, the antimatter fireball/bomb (you'll also notice the the SS can flame on in the vacuum of space with no outside tech, unlike the Torch). Those were the examples I used. Don't try to put words in my mouth regarding crap I never said.
The antimatter fireball is a power he has. He fires it off just like he would an normal fireball! How would he not have time to get off a standard attack like that?
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How many suits does Tony have? You see the tricky thing about arguing Iron Man is that you have to factor in Tony. Iron Man is Tony, and if the Super Skrull pops up into town you can bet that one of the worlds greatest minds isn't going to put on his Thor buster. He's going to put on a suit capable of defeating a foe that he has not just read about, but studied in depth. This is the tricky thing about CISless battles. Just remember that Tony is Iron man, Iron Man is not Tony, or we might as well send Rhodey in his stead, and expect him to do as well in as many scenarios.
Be that as it may, he'd need prep to even grab an "anti specific armor". Otherwise, it's standard everything. Bats can't grab his Green K in a fight with Supes, without prep, can he?
No prep time given in this fight.
In the recent AvsX, we can assume Stark prepared for X-confrontations, and in other cases like WWH or his fight with Black Panther (Plastic armor nullify anti metal claws, stealth tech) he had reason and time to prepare.
But here, this is just a random fight.. Starks good, but he's not Adam West Batman, carrying anti-everything loadouts all the time.
Tony has software that can map muscular twitch fibers like he did with Steve, and before SS attempted anything he would be shot in the mouth, face, ass, you name it. CISless remember? What about airborne breathable nanites? Who said that he had to stick him with them? The concept behind nanites are that they are as small a blood cells. That's pretty small, so unless the Super... I mean Trans Skrull has somehow developed microscopic Superman vision, he won't see when, or know when or how his powers have seemingly stopped working. Power isn't everything when you have the tech or tools to shut them down.
Every armor that Tony has is standard issue. he uses them for any given situation which is why he built so many of them. Are there armors that SS could defeat? Of course but over all Tony has the tech to shut SS down. This isn't Batman, Thor, Hal Jordan, it's Tony Stark.
You would have a case and a very strong one if he did not explicitly know Sue, or anything about the Super Skrull, but as we all know, Tony has built suits for the Hulk, Magneto, Xavier, under water adventures, stealth, the list goes on and on. The Super Skrull is fighting Tony Stark, and as I mentioned Tony is Iron Man not the other way around. Tony built something for Galactus. Just something to think about, and it's not as if he needs precious time to change suits, he could just techno-pathically refit while in combat. CIS off as it is.
By not being able to be detected. Therefore unless SS always flies around with shields up Captain, he's going to be outsmarted, outgunned, out-shined, and locked down.
If true, that's moronic (I'm not calling you moronic, I'm calling the writer moronic), because it goes against all the times he's fought in space with no tech and was just fine with the lack of oxygen there (note that he can flame on in a vacuum without tech too).
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I wasn't referring to him beating them I was referring to the fact he can and has used his FF in a similar manner to a GL construct.
He was able to surround a ship in a bubble then alter the bubbles shape to break open the ship and remove the pilot almost like a hand.
As for this Tony Stark is Ironman and Ironman is not Tony Stark idea. We get what you are saying but what other people are saying is that the tech you are talking about is very specific to the characters he was fighting and he had that tech due to prep using specialty armors. This isn't a prep fight. This would be Tony as he is normally depicted randomly meeting and fighting SS without any previous prep.
So unless you can prove Tony can whip out any previous tech from his specialty armors on the fly than Tony can't use them in this fight.
Yeah he was still depicted being able to flame on in the vacuum of space. If you have other instances of him not needing to breath in space that could trump what I said.
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