But he couldn't die from that attack to begin with, not without a Green Lantern to contribute. I don't see how that's something that applies to regular Superman. At all, really.
And if you do something think that feat is valid for regular non-Black Ring wearing Superman, it's certainly so far beyond his typical displays it may as well be rendered an incredibly high end feat. We saw Hank w/ rings manage to lay into Superman. I certainly don't think Hank w/ 10 Qwardian rings >= Sinestro, Atrocitus, and Larfleeze all attacking at once with the intent to kill. And we also know that any of the elite Lanterns on their own is capable of harming Superman conventionally, as well.
So, yeah. Not seeing how that example can even begin to be applied for regular Superman.
I don't see how he couldn't die there? He wasn't completely undead there as superboy and bart showed after that they were alive inside but slowly dying. Lanterns were killing BLs left and right. That and superman wasn't in danger of dying there, he wasn't even scratched and sinestro's desperate calling to hal to help him doesn't mean he was able to kill superman when he just before that swatted hal away.
That was a holding back superman. Later he nearly killed the same henshaw. Which lanterns are we talking about? Hal came with everything he had and superman tanked that while not fighting back. John had to attack his eyes after he shrugged off a blast that koed the league. An ion amped kyle's Id (heh, his Ids are more powerful than him. Hello oblivion!) managed to scratch him in the face when superman walked through his all out blast. Byrne superman pushed through a mindcontrolled kilowog's all out blast and later he stunned superman with two rings via a suckershot and after that superman was beating him while fighting mind-controll. This is superman, feats like these aren't outside his range.
There was no amp. BL Kal-L was getting his face messed up by superman's blows and superboy shattered his whole body apart by his TTK. Black ring seemed to downgrade durability actually seeing how even PG was able to tear flesh out of Kal-L's face with a blow.
If a character gets a power up which doesn't increases any of his powers but gives him other powers instead and he uses his standard powers, it can be used for his standard self AFAIK. There is no logical reason it shouldn't.
Never said it did make you wrong, just that it wasn't usable.
We saw that people infected with black rings had their bodies affected. Whether you don't think it's an amp or not, fair enough, but it doesn't make it usable.
There was a time when I thought it was, but reading back, it's just not representative considering the alterations black rings cause.
So despite the facts to the contrary, its not valid. Sigh, Ok. FTR Black rings only gave a HF, there isn't a single proof it increased durability. Its like superman getting increased durability and claiming that his strength feats are invalid due to it. But seeing this is a Mod ruling, I concede.
I read Blackest Night too, you know. I'm not just picking an opinion out of the air and running with it. Alterations are alterations, so no, it's not really the same thing.
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