If one put put True Legion(the incarnation that stuffed 99% of the universe in a box killed those Limbo Elder Gods) in this thread, then the matchup becomes interesting imo. I'd like to see how he matches up against Marvel's top skyfather.
Owning Magik's Elder Gods while great, doesn't in itself put him above Odin.
And stuffing the Universe in a box while high end, isn't above Odin's best either. Just this week as he returned from exile, he casually negated/contained/channeled all the power Surtur had amassed returning himself to his former glory. Enough power to destroy the Multiverse and all that jazz.
Not to mention, a weapon Odin has enchanted had the power to create a pocket dimension/Universe as well.
^Where was it stated or implied that Surtur's accumulated power was enough to destroy all of the multiverse? Iirc, it was only supposed to "burn" the Nine Realms. If not, I'll be glad to be corrected.
He was going to channel the power he had accumulated through Otherworld into the rest of the Multiverse, burning all of creation. Surtur describes his plan as well in the previous issue but I do not have the scans.
Ah, but he needed to use Otherworld as a conduit of sorts to cause that sort of destruction. That's the skyfather scaled-up equivalent of Hulk laying waste to countless worlds while within an Interdimensional Nexus.
Yes, but he still possessed enough energy to reduce the Multiverse to a cinder, he simply needed a link/conduit to get to it. A distinction, but ultimately not one relevant here as Odin still dealt with all of that energy in it's totality casually.
Besides, you didn't even recall him being a threat to the Multiverse.
Without Otherworld being used as a conduit, it was stated as being an unmaking universal fire.
That's because I stopped purchasing Fraction's Thor series after #6. Whatever rudimentary knowledge I had about the series was from a couple of spoilers here and there on CBR and Guy's scans on Character Ownage.
Otherworld was a conduit for the power he had amassed through his city. The Multiverse burning away? It would have been the energy he had stored.
Loki describing it as an un-making Universal fire doesn't mean that it can do no better than destroy a Universe in regards to power. In literally the next few panels he points out how Surtur would destroy the Multiverse. The word creation was used in another scene, Surtur also pointed out that he had amassed enough power to destroy the Multiverse. Could it do so on it's own? No, his fire would just burn everything in this Universe away and have nowhere to go, but Otherworld provided room for his flame to expand and it would until nothing was left. This is a distinction worth noting but when it comes to Odin, he negated all that energy in it's totality.
I'm not so sure. Surtur seems to indicate that Otherworld doesn't merely channel the fire into the other universes but somehow amplifies it.
Here is what he says in Thor #20. "Otherworld is the home of all magic. It connects with all other realms. To strike a match there would make all realities a pyre, all universes kindling."
Negating (That's how it was described in the next issue*) the amount of energy that Surtur had is a feat and an impressive one at that.
I mean, it's not as if the character's in that issue were clearly in fatal peril (Along with the rest of the Universe), were desperate for aid and knew only Odin could accomplish what needed to be done.
Oh wait, that's exactly what happened. I'm sure you still think that means it isn't impressive and many could accomplish it despite the comic telling you otherwise.
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