This is only correct if you assume that Goku's power remained stagnant and never increased after his beatings/death during the Cell Games--- which entirely ignores the fundamental physiology of a Saiyan in general.
PIKKON, goku could top gohan ssj2 in skill while noy pikkon, the only reason he beat pikkon was taking advantage of his ability. pikkon would beat gohan only for the fact that he has more skill in fighting.
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Re: Pikkon vs. SSJ2 Gohan
Well there was no logic in how easily pikkon beat perfect cell when super saiyan 1 goku beat him, super saiyan 2 gohan is as far above pikkon as he is perfect cell this should be an easy answer. I'll give you pikkon is full power perfect cell's equal but he isn't any where near super perfect cell or super saiyan 2 gohan's level.
goku beat pikkon do to the notch in his tornado attack his arm makes, then he took advantage of it and won. if it were not for that goku would have lost. pikkon is greater than gohan in fighting ablilty so he would win.
So even though Goku received a thorough pummeling from Cell and the Cell Juniors before he officially died, you believe none of that matters and that he gained no Zenkai from said beatings in the afterlife? So you're essentially saying that Goku's power somehow reverted back to the level it was at prior to facing Cell? That's an interesting time-warp theory. I didn't know things worked like that in the spirit world--- I figured Goku would simply retain the same body he had just prior to dying. /shrug
Anyway, I don't agree with you whatsoever... But you're welcome to your own opinion, I suppose.
I don't remember how much time passed in... Other World?... but he looked to be training like a motherf*cker before the tournament. And in the Funime's Buu saga, I recall something about there being a greater well of energy to draw from in the afterlife.
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Yes pikkon's skill is far ahead of gohan's, but that skill is nowhere near enough to make up for the sheer power difference, super saiyan 2 gohan would pull off the same thing goku did with the hyper tornado effortlessly and in an instant. Kid buu has no skill to speak of and yet kid buu was beating everyone with just his greater power, strength, speed, regeneration, endurance and instincts. It was the same with Broly, Janemba, Hirudigarn, the Fat Buu and Super Buu's base form, they didn't need much if any skill, training or experience to beat almost everyone.
but if were talking current, 1, it was stated that gohan's power level in ssj2 wasnt as high as before. and after pikkons battle with goku, they both trained together. goku unlocked 2 new levels of super saiyan so we can assume that their is no more notch in ANY of his attacks, since were asuming that gohans power level is THAT much greater than pikkons. and that his power level has increased aswell. i say pikkon.
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Yes maybe, but super saiyan 2 adult gohan's power didn't drop by that much, and I really don't think a non saiyan fighter like pikkon will have improved that much either, after all supreme kai said himself when gohan transformed to super saiyan 2 that he was still the strongest at the world tournament regardless of the power drop since his fight with cell.
I don't think that statement is canon to the manga(I never saw it in the manga, at least.) Either way, unless Kai was talking about potential power, then Gohan was clearly not the most powerful fighter at the tournament--- SSJ3 Goku vastly surpassed him.
But like I said, Kai may have very well been talking about Gohan having more potential power than anyone else at the tournament... Which he did... Until GT, at least.
well, either way, vegeta did say he was nothing compared to back then, and since this is current ssj2 gohan vs pikkon... i will still have to go with pikkon.
Well thanks to inconsistencies, who knows how zenkai or getting stronger works in the verse anymore?
Like in 6 days of Namek they skyrocket with training and loss-boosts, but in the 7 years of training and zenkais Goku and Vegeta were still only comparable to Gohan when he fought Cell.. shit dun make sense >->
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True the Saiyan Zenkai was very inconsistent(even during the Frieza Saga), but there's no evidence that it ever went away--- it just stopped being a key plot-point once they went SSJ. That's all I'm saying.
Massive jumps. Vegeta goes up 3,000 from his loss to Goku, up 220,000 with the loss to Racoom and Goku up 2,910,000 for losing to Ginyu.. If Akira didnt care then I think he just gave up besides that one plot devise for Cell..
..makes me wonder how the normal Saiyan is only at Raditz' level /tangent to thread
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