This is why our point wins the debate. Without his weapon, Steve doesn't have a wild card. X can just predict every move he makes, and counter it. Cap isn't immune to pressure strikes, and X is a good enough fighter that Cap won't wade through his hits in a forum fight. He doesn't need a weapon to beat Cap down, just his powers, which Cap has absolutely no counter to or chance against.
X is a low level telepath, while Steve has blocked out Quire with his mind and broken out of Red with Xaviers mind powers.
Also add to that that Steve mind is not normal and is boosted.
I think that is the edge that gives him enough to win. It won't be easy that I agree with. But Steve adaptability to new threats is just some thing he excels at.
You're not getting it. X doesn't just read his mind. He reads the electrical currents that translate into brain synapses. You can't "block" that out. And his mind being boosted once again has "nothing" to do with anything. You can't stop your brain from having impulses, which X reads. By reading those, he sees what moves Cap makes before he makes them. And even then, his telepathy is passive, so the brain doesn't even pick it up as an attempt at reading your mind, so there's nothing to block.
Also, X only lost to Danny because he switched to Drunken Fist. If he'd used any other form, X would have won decisively .
True, but considering how easily X handled Taskmaster (who was using DD's and Cap's moves), it shouldn't be too hard for him to beat Steve in this thread.
Drunken fist style is just simulation of drunk movements that are random and hard to counter. It does not entail hiding ones electrical currents.
Plus if Steve can block out Quire and break out of Xaviers level of telepathy control. I don't think that its to "far" to reach that he can block out X as well. Especially since these two are prop superior to X in this regard.
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He only used his most standard equipment when they went h2h, that is a sword and a shield.
I'm not arguing whether or not it was fair, I'm just focusing on Steve's performance w/o the shield. Because that's what we're supposed to do in this thread.
Except for feral Wolverine, which is a heaping pile of PIS since impulses that move the body happen regardless of whether they're instinctive or conscious.
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The Iron Fist incident is being overblown. Danny landed one hit then got thrown out of a window by Ghost. We saw X standing around totally fine afterwards.
It was embarrassing for X, but it's only a loss in a point sparring match.
Additionally, X trained to over come that weakness in that really shitty one-shot.
See, the fact they keep citing that feat shows Mr. X still has his credibility.
The narrative is "Holy crap, he got hit?", instead of "Mr. X lol", or even worse "...lets talk about someone else."
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That's kinda not how electrical impulses work. Doing anything causes them in your brain. The simple act of thinking, whether instinctive or not, causes them. THey're always there. And X can read them.
And going feral as the answer for everything is kind of a cheap dues x. mechanica anyways, imo.
Superman had to actually outwit Massacre's similar power. Granted, all he did was pretend to fire his HV at him, knowing Massacre would duck, that it would hit something slightly behind/above him, and distract him enough to body tackle him and shut down his power by keeping him stunned and reeling, but still.. It's better then "Accessing plot device power set.."
__________________ What CDTM believes;
Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.
But if that's how it's portrayed it must be counted irregardless what it should be. He was not able to read them for Logan nor Danny. As X clearly has limitations.
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