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you blatantly highball then roll your eyes at me? lol
no, you've given ONE example of his best ever showing and one feat against an opponent who HAS no feats (other than to be beaten by samson.....odg probably has some cool latin name for that type of reasoning.)
thing has held his own better than samson against hulk. colossus has flat out done better. MORTAL herc has done as well! holding your own, putting up a fight, doesn't mean anything, especially regarding hulk who's strength is all over the place and against a person who, deep down, bruce actually cared a little bit about.
Fail. I gave you multiple examples of Classic Samson holding his own vs Mindless Hulk for an extended period of time. The Unleashed Samson fight wasn't only meant to highlight his increased strength but also his mindset (which he explained why he lost to Savage Hulk all those times). Rulk even commented on how he was stronger.
Thing has usually had a TEAM with him when he took on the Hulk. Colossus didn't do jack and he had help from Kitty and Lockheed when he sucker attacked Hulk. At least Classic Samson's sucker punch laid Hulk the phuck out. When has mortal Herc done well vs Hulk? Excuse me if I don't trust your memory seeing how you were wrong about Thing/Samson fighting and Thing "owning" Samson.
Yes Hulk is all over the place. That's why the Classic Samson vs Hulk showings were important. Samson fought vs an enrage Savage and MINDLESS Hulk (you know the guy it took TWO TEAMS of Avengers PLUS She-Hulk to put down).
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Yes but which? I'm genuinely curious. The only times I can recall Herc facing off vs the Hulk is when he had a team backing him up. First time was during the Mindless Hulk arc and he had the Avengers with him, second time was during the Prof. Hulk era and again he had the Avengers with him (which included Sersi, Crystal, and Vision) and Hulk was being mind controlled by Mentallo.
I didn't dispute this. Just said it's a high showing for him.
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Because Sampson was outmatched every time, yes. And his near-death at the hands of some fodder Rulked-out soldier (that A-Bomb and Skaar were dealing with en masse) isn't improving his position.
You'd be wrong on that. I suppose your question mark proves you were only accidentally ignorant.
The first time they ever met in the 60s, and the other time when Savage Hulk accidentally invaded Olympus.
Sampson's character statements don't change him getting his a$$ beat by every Hulk there ever was. Nor excuse his near-death at the hands of some fodder Rulked-out soldier.
If you're trying to convince me you know next to nothing about Hercules, you've succeeded. Hercules has fought two Avengers teams at different times.
Character statements don't change that Doc Sampson has gotten his a$$ beat by every single Hulk there ever was. Not when those character statements are made while Doc Sampson was nearly beaten to death by a fodder Rulked-out soldier who himself was wracked with pain. I don't think you've thought this through at all.
And clearly you haven't read enough Hercules. It should have been obvious from the start how uninformed you are about him. My fault for assuming otherwise and extending a pointless conversation. And now that I think of it, he's actually fought the Avengers three times.
Just because Leonard tells himself, in an inner monologue, that he should've beaten the Hulk, it doesn't make it a fact. I could come up with a theory that I could beat Floyd Mayweather in a boxing fight, if I used a certain strategy. It won't alter the fact that, however I tried to fight him, I would be knocked out inside of 10 seconds.
Not sure if this matters but I intended this to be long haired 'bad' doc Samson as in during all that Intelligencia mess. Long hair = more power so figured it was one of his stronger incarnations.
You are too right my friend, we need to get back on topic. In his evil "Samson" form Leonard is more powerful than his classic Doc Samson form. If Herc is in his Immortal from I reckon he still takes a majority though.
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