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DarkSaint85
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Lol.

Well, way I see it, whatever the Joker wanted to happen, happened. But although Wanda said 'No more mutants', the reality was, there were still mutants running around (initially, the 198, then it was retconned to be a 'symbolic number'). So she wasn't as powerful.

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Lol.

Well, way I see it, whatever the Joker wanted to happen, happened. But although Wanda said 'No more mutants', the reality was, there were still mutants running around (initially, the 198, then it was retconned to be a 'symbolic number'). So she wasn't as powerful.

Didn't the Chaos Wave she created with that spell need to hit Otherworld before it's effects were truly multi/omniversal? And even then like you said, there were still mutants around. Assuming the number was symbolic, it doesn't change the fact that NEW mutants were popping up.

PS who was the most powerful person HoM Wanda beat btw?

As to the thread, IMHO, Joker should destroy her.

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Didn't the Chaos Wave she created with that spell need to hit Otherworld before it's effects were truly multi/omniversal? And even then like you said, there were still mutants around. Assuming the number was symbolic, it doesn't change the fact that NEW mutants were popping up.

PS who was the most powerful person HoM Wanda beat btw?

As to the thread, IMHO, Joker should destroy her.

She obviously didn't want all mutants dead subconciously. Please don't act like the fact there was mutants left was a sign of a limit to her powers. She is also not evil like the Joker. She changed the damn universe and created a new history. Completely uber.

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She obviously didn't want all mutants dead subconciously. Please don't act like the fact there was mutants left was a sign of a limit to her powers. She is also not evil like the Joker. She changed the damn universe and created a new history. Completely uber.

You can't just decide to nitpick something when it doesn't suit your needs.

Fact is, Wanda said no more Mutants, the fact that there still mutants running around proved she was limited somewhat.

Where as Joker had the Universe in the palm of his hands, and only lost through pis.

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Stalemate as they can both do anything.

Lol @ Joker side arguing about mental health though...

Its not about mental control.

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You can't just decide to nitpick something when it doesn't suit your needs.

Fact is, Wanda said no more Mutants, the fact that there still mutants running around proved she was limited somewhat.

Where as Joker had the Universe in the palm of his hands, and only lost through pis.

I'm not nitpicking it, the people saying Joker was more powerful because Wanda didn't erase all mutants out of existence are nitpicking. This is not about me and what I like but nice try. By the way, Joker could not erase Batman out of existence and this was his stated weakness and the reason he lost.

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You should chnage your name to I am Groot since you have his vocabulary.

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She obviously didn't want all mutants dead subconciously. Please don't act like the fact there was mutants left was a sign of a limit to her powers. She is also not evil like the Joker. She changed the damn universe and created a new history. Completely uber.

Joker did all that stuff as a noob under 6.9 seconds and only two people could break through the reality manipulation, superman and spectre.

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Wanda's reality manipulation was so filmsy that people like skrull queen were able to break through it.

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I'm not nitpicking it, the people saying Joker was more powerful because Wanda didn't erase all mutants out of existence are nitpicking. This is not about me and what I like but nice try. By the way, Joker could not erase Batman out of existence and this was his stated weakness and the reason he lost.

You are nitpicking. Wanda didn't want anymore mutants around, yet she wasn't able to erase all of them. That right there is a limit. Now did she put that limit on herself, will never know.

The reason Joker didn't erase Batman completely wasn't because he couldn't, since he actually did kill Bruce multiple times, was because he sees Bruce as his other half. And without Batman he himself feels incomplete.

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Joker did all that stuff as a noob under 6.9 seconds and only two people could break through the reality manipulation, superman and spectre.

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Wanda's reality manipulation was so filmsy that people like skrull queen were able to break through it.

Actually is 69, not 6.9.

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You are nitpicking. Wanda didn't want anymore mutants around, yet she wasn't able to erase all of them. That right there is a limit. Now did she put that limit on herself, will never know.

The reason Joker didn't erase Batman completely wasn't because he couldn't, since he actually did kill Bruce multiple times, was because he sees Bruce as his other half. And without Batman he himself feels incomplete.

So in your opinion Wolverine > HoM Wanda?

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Actually is 69, not 6.9.

Oops.

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So in your opinion Wolverine > HoM Wanda?

Lol

Did i say that? No, i didn't.

Maybe the reason was because she tasked herself out and was unable to erase Logan. Not because Logan's more powerful.

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Logan can't be erased from the MU. Fact

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Did i say that? No, i didn't.

Maybe the reason was because she tasked herself out and was unable to erase Logan. Not because Logan's more powerful.

You implied it.

Pro tip: don't start a statement with maybe while pulling at straws.

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You implied it.

Pro tip: don't start a statement with maybe while pulling at straws.

Am not pulling at straws. It's on you to prove why Wanda was unable to end all mutants.

Facts is, she wanted to kill all mutants, yet that wasn't the case.

That doesn't mean Logan was more powerful, it just mean, she has limits. Or maybe it tasked her out doing such a feat that Logan though a mutant went under her influence by sheer luck.

Nov 22nd, 2013 02:54 PM