I wasn't talking about Hulk. Someone said Thanos beat down Annihilus, but then he commented on panel that Annihilus was as powerful as him.
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Hmm.. hard to say. Annihilus defeated current Hulk quite easily whereas Sentry could only stalemate world war Hulk. But then again, WWH was perhaps more powerful than the current version...
There was nothing easy about that fight for Annihilus. You should go back and read it again. Did you read it? Hulk actually chipped his carapace up, and made him work for everything. At the end there was no winner. Pip showed up and teleported the Hulk and himself out of there. As for this fight Sentry probably wins this.
I just read it today. Hulk got that one good shot in, but chipping the most apparently fragile part of the carapace is about as impressive as tearing your opponent's shirt.
Aside from two hits, both of which were surprises and one of which was made possible by a third-party distraction, Hulk was getting smacked around with ridiculous ease by an Annihilus who was still just getting used to his new powers. Pip feared for Hulk's life and when it was over, Banner needed first-aid and nap (although many factors may have contributed to this nap)
It is true that the fight was never finished, so Hulk never "lost." But it was plainly one-sided.
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The longer most fights go on with the Hulk the stronger he gets as well. This is somewhat of a perspective that the casual viewer may overlook. The dialogue in the next book says that Gladiator was easily as strong as the Hulk, but he was defeated, while the Hulk wasn't. There have been times that it looked like the Hulk was on the verge of defeat, but then he turns around and wins. The fight wasn't over, so it's anyone's guess how it would have actually ended. Also who snuck up on whom? Annihilus appeared behind the Hulk when the battle began if i recall correctly.
The ONLY time the fight went against Hulk was when Annihilus used his fear power. Before that, it was even.
Also, what difference did Annihilus show in his fight against Gladiator and Thanos than what he showed against Hulk? He fought the same way. Hell, his blasts against Hulk seemed more devistating.
In other words, let's go ahead and say that Hulk being horribly outclassed is a sign that he had Annihilus right where he wanted him... Hontestly, I hear what you're saying, but the fight really wasn't that close. It crosses into no-limit fallacy territory to suggest Hulk could have been on the verge of turning things around.
He appeared behind him and exchanged words for a couple of panels before smacking him around. it wasn't any sort of surprise attack.
Anyway, read the fight again. It's pretty obvious that its whole narrative purpose is to establish Annihilus as a guy newly above Hulk's weight class.
No it wasn't. Hulk got in one punch that turned Anni's head a little. Anni got in three shots against Hulk, all of which left Hulk with no say in the trajectory of his body. That's not how even fights are depicted in comics or, I think, in the imagination of good sense.
Ignoring the "seemed more devastating" comment as non-analysis, its worth noting that Annihilus refers frequently throughout his three fights to the idea that he's testing his powe,r and that the Thanos fight goes out of its way to remind us that experience makes people stronger. But beyond that, it's just speculation.
It's more likely that he just beat Glads so easily because Glads was still affected by the fear power. Just because he overcame his fear enough to fight doesnt mean his confidence was high.
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Carver do you have the scans of the majority of said battle between Anni and the Hulk? Because this needs to be laid to rest. The Hulk can and has taken beatings before, but he has also gotten back up.
It isn't a no limits fallacy to cite a characters powers. From what I recall of the battle, at no time did Annihilus nearly KO the Hulk. Therefore, me stating that the Hulk would have become stronger as the match progressed shouldn't in any way seem like an impossibility. For you to even bring the no fallacy fallacy into this makes me feel as if you believed that Annihilus had no limits himself. You see how this works? Annihilus beat the mess out of Gladiator within seconds, while being unable to put the Hulk down. Not to mention that the Hulk being used was the very same one that the Void had his way with.
Three things should be taken from this.
1. The Hulk can, and has been shown to be far more powerful than his Savage incarnation.
2. The Sentry beat the hell out of the Void.
3. If the Sentry took out the guy that nearly broke every bone in the Savage Hulk's body, while Annihilus was unable to even break one, I would think that the Sentry is well above Annihilus. I mean, if we had to compare.
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What's wrong with using collateral damage? If a guy is shown punching a planet apart, it kind of tells us that he's pretty strong. If there is something wrong with it, then people have really got to stop using the bench pressing the Earth's weight for 7 days reference.
Also, I have to remind you that when the Hulk first transforms that even Wonder Man would be above his present level. The Hulk grows in power. It isn't that he has no limit to the amount that he can grow in power, it's just that Annihilus isn't infinitely powerful himself. Let's all remember where Annihilus got his new found physical power from in the first place. Let's also remember that the Hulk had been anally probed, and prodded for God knows how long, so he may not have been in tip top. i mean if we're going to speculate about power levels.
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