Some of the feats just aren't quantifiable. How hot is the pit of Hades supposed to be? I also thought he was sundipped when he did the AoE planet hv?
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Are you trolling me? Name which scan did not match my words. I just single proved that Superman's hv is far hotter than a star and shown it penetrating beings with the exact same feats as Surfer going inside stars.
So that I'm sure that you are not trolling me. Show or name a feat where Surfer tanked something far hotter than a star.
Well, if we're using "powering engines" kinda "feats", a more direct comparison would be keeping a planet "bigger than any 4 planets combined" from crumbling by powering it.
correct. But those feats just gives us a benefit of the doubt that the hv is potent enough to harm Herald level beings. Especially able to melt a magical Herald level beings weapon. The quantifiable ones are enough to prove that Superman wins.
He powered the planet. Not moved it. Superman moved the planet under his own power.
Under the same writer he explicitly stated that to move the moon he has to push harder than ever.
Superman powered the miracle machine and then helped move the ****ing multiverse outside Darkseid's black hole along with the supermen of multiverse and GLs.
Surfer pushing the moon was him not using an outside engine/machine to accomplish it. And he's not really known for pushing things.
A more apples-to-apples depiction (if we base it on the "feat" you posted) of the power levels of the energy they generate would be with regards to what the machines they powered managed to accomplish with the energy they gave it.
Although, honestly, I don't know how this really determines who would win in an energy blast fight.
Uh huh....
See very last sentence above.
Also, aren't fights like this supposed to be about current versions of said characters? Shouldn't this be DCNU Superman vs Surfer? Are the above DCNU "feats"?
Those machines didn't help Superman. It was all his own power.
Under a red sun to boot.
You are once again trying to obfuscate a simple showing. How do the engines generate more power than what they received? When the comic never suggested it?
Because by space cheese or against characters Superman trumps Surfer.
What I said is that, based on your own words, he POWERED an engine to accomplish said "feat". The same way Surfer POWERED a machine to accomplish his. Apples to apples.
2) When did I say that engines generate more power than they receive? Or anything of the kind? You seem to be misunderstanding what I'm saying...
3) Debatable. That's for the others here to argue, tho. I'm just here to state that a closer comparison to the "feat" you posted would be the one I mentioned.
4) Thought it was always "most current" unamped version. Although the MU reboot kinda confuses things a bit. Eh, that's why I don't really come here often, too many changes in comics happening to keep track of.
Both examples are essentially their energy used to power machines/engines to accomplish something.
It's just then left to argue what would take more energy, moving a planet or keeping a planet together. But as it is, it is quantifiably apples-to-apples.
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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
Superman's hv can match absolute zero which means it can reach planck temperature of 1.41 x 10^32K. This is hotter than anything in the universe. This is the ultimate feat, Unless you think that Captain's cold freeze ray wasn't absolute zero. http://i57.tinypic.com/b64lqq.jpg
So hot that man has no instruments to measure it. Man can create lasers and other things and measure then to thousands of time hotter than the sun with ease. So Superman's hv is far hotter than anything man can create. http://i57.tinypic.com/fzckg7.jpg
Hotter than the pit of Hades. Starts to melt D.C. Thor's axe. Even though we don't have many feats of this Thor and his weapon we can at least assume that it is far more durable than conventional man made alloys, especially with that Thor being strong enough to affect Superman. http://i59.tinypic.com/fy22pv.jpg
Now for the one important (non space cheese) feat that proves Superman wins. Superman can survive inside a star (just like Surfer) and become more powerful. So many would argue that the feat doesn't count since the star powers Superman and it isn't his durability that actually protects him. Well Superman has also survived inside a giant red star (a star that doesn't give him powers but takes it away) without any damage whatsoever. Yet HV is shown able to pierce him like a hot knife through butter. So if Surfer's best feat of resisting heat is going through a star then this feat below PROVES that Superman's hv will go through him like a hot knife through butter if Superman decides to turn it on and let loose. http://i62.tinypic.com/2affyc7.jpg
What are Surfer's best blast feats against high herald level beings?
What are his best space cheese feats?
Do they compare? I know a lot of Surfer's feats but I'll be open to any Surfer fan to post feats that compare or exceed the feats I posted. Let's debate without trolling (saying Superman or Surfer wins while ignoring proof from the other character because we like the character better).
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